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Roger F. at Intrada just posted:
"No one on the production team hears any issues, including Bill and Mike Ross, the recording engineer and mixer and he's the best in the business. I hear a little vibrato in the string playing, which is how the players performed it. But that's about it. So there's nothing to correct as far as we can tell."
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9055
And maybe this is why it wasn't covered much here. It's not an issue. Now just enjoy this excellent release.
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I guess anybody who is somehow "very distracted" by the sound quality of this recording can listen to the acetates that FSM released instead.
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Interesting that JB Berg hasn't returned, which I always find odd. I think we can all now say there is NOTHING wrong with any tracks on this album and put silliness to bed.
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'A wise old man told me one time
Happiness is a frame of mind
When you go to measuring my success
Don't count my money count my happiness.'
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May 18, 2023 - 1:26 PM
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jkruppa
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Yes, I'm Italian, but I'm not a bot.
Funny and even a little annoying that someone thought I'm a bot just because I didn't reply.
However, not only am I not a bot, but I'm one of those who helped fund the project, so I think I'm entitled to make my observations and report my disappointment.
The sound issues I've reported is not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.
But there is nothing to reply to those who say they don't feel it and that just because they don't feel it, they call me lunatic.
Nor does the fact that the producers of the album have denied the existence of any problem seem to me a sufficient argument to disprove my observation.
In conclusion, the album remains an excellent product.
THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH feel great. Most ON DANGEROUS GROUND's tracks as well.
The secret of happiness is being content with what you have and not wanting anything else.
Thanks for responding, and I'm sorry I suggested you were a bot.
As for the sound issues, I downloaded the hi rez version and just gave the tracks you mentioned a listen, specifically paying attention for any sound issues. Like others here, I didn't notice anything that stood out. I believe you're hearing what you hear, but if the producers of the album and presumably the engineer -- someone with very good ears, I would imagine -- doesn't hear it, then what can be done? What would you like, exactly?
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I'm willing to give a listen to the exact sections of the exact cues that you name as problematic. Could you provide the track titles, and the exact timings from your CD player for those sections? It is hard to tell from your description of the problem just what you are hearing, and I heard nothing variable from cue to cue when I gave the CD a spin last week. So track titles and timings, please?
P.S. I have an OPPO player, a Marantz receiver, Sennheiser Headphones, AKG Headphones, and Polk speakers. I usually "fine tune" listening on the AKG headphones.
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May 19, 2023 - 9:55 AM
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JB Berg
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The defect to which I am referring is substantially perceptible in all cues from track 22 (Prelude) to track 29 (The House). It is particularly evident in the bars performed by strings and woodwinds, while it tends to be less perceived when trumpets and other brass are played in a muted tone.
For example, it is very marked in the whole track 27 (Hunt Scherzo): listen i.e. from 2:10 or from 2:36.
It seems to disappear completely in the tracks since the viola d'amore appears, i.e. from track 30 to the end of the album, except for the very beginning of track 31 (Frigth), where it briefly appears again.
I think you can hear it any playback medium. I felt it with Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones connected via bluetooth to cellphone (Spotify), with my average car stereo system, with my home wi-fi implant (Rotel amplifier, Denon CD player, Sonus Faber speakers) playing the original Intrada CD, with Jabra headphones connected to PC, etc.
You could describe this kind of distortion by referring to the "sound of sea in the shells".
If you want a clear example of it, you can listen to the whole GNP Crescendo CD of Randy Miller's HELLRAISER III score, where - however - the defect is present in a much more evident and sensational way than here.
This same distorting effect was deliberately used - as an ingenious alienating solution - by Michael Kamen in the AMAZING STORIES episode MIRROR, MIRROR.
I hope I have given you a few more elements to identify what we are talking about
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I just listened to the track in question via smartphone and Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones, so a very similar setup, and don't hear any of the egregious issues that you insist are there.
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Yeah, but JB Berg has been polite and even appreciative of Intrada in this thread. So why compare him?
Yavar
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