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 Posted:   Sep 5, 2014 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Still waiting for doppelgänger/journey to far side of sun.

This.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


- Who here knows - for a fact and not idle speculation - that another label could and would have done a better & cheaper job of releasing these great scores?




Ralph Titterton - who represents the Barry Gray estate and who has been involved with several Gray-related releases - has said that after Silva released Space:1999 Series 2 they advised him that they had no plans at that time for further Gerry Anderson releases. This was I think after speculation that Silva might do a release of UFO.

I do find it hard to believe that a US label would not have been interested.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Still waiting for doppelgänger/journey to far side of sun.

This.


This what? Like rosebud. Will we ever see this album????

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Moviedrone   (Member)

I can understand both sides really. The costs etc needed to produce the membership and the media, but also the fact that the sets themselves also aren't the cheapest. So the S1999 would cost me around £60 because I don't in the near future intend to purchase anything else. Which is potentially prohibitive.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I do appreciate it's frustrating if you're not a Fanderson member and you want this set. There will only be 1,000 copies and if you're not a Fanderson member, you have to pay a year's membership plus the cost of the CD. That is an "ouch" for most.

What I will say in Fanderson's defence is that their license agreement with ITV does indeed limit them to 1,000 copies for members only. Their license agreement does not permit them to sell these CDs "openly".

Now perhaps if they were a bigger organization with more buying power and more capital behind them for advances, maybe they could have negotiated a better license agreement. Or maybe they didn't even try. I don't know.

Silva Screen did of course license Space:1999 but elected to release a single disc only.

I don't know what to say here. I'm grateful to Fanderson for finding a way to get this out. And I'm sorry for everyone who's going to miss out because of the double-whammy limitation.

As a member, I *can* order one more copy for somebody. But even members are only allowed to buy a maximum of two. I can and am prepared to help one person out and buy one for you off the back of my membership. But I can only help one.

Mail me if you want that to be you and please understand I can't help any more than one. You just need to cover the cost of the CD and postage.

EDIT: Please no more requests. I've done my one and only help.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


Now perhaps if they were a bigger organization with more buying power and more capital behind them for advances, maybe they could have negotiated a better license agreement. Or maybe they didn't even try. I don't know.



Based on what I've picked up over the years...

I believe that they are granted a 'free' licence on condition that merchandise is limited in quantity and for sale to members only, and those are the conditions imposed not only by ITV but also their predecessors (eg ITC, Polygram and Carlton). My understanding was that it's not negotiable as such. I suppose if they had to pay for a licence their costs would be considerably greater?

Fanderson are set up to serve their members, and that's what they are doing. If their licensing deals are not interfering with commercial ventures (and that is apparently one reason ITV place limits on them) then perhaps it might be better to direct requests for these scores to the specialist labels?

I'd be interested to know how much it might cost the labels in licencing fees. Or maybe ITV aren't that easy to deal with? Who knows?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

¶ It sounds like a fine project and it "may" be the best vintage television music release of 2014.
I am eager to get my set and discovers the lengthy additional materials they have dug out.

¶ Don't worry, Fanderson doesn't care about a fistful of Film Score Monthly members.
Their economical target is well-focused. Thank you Fanderson.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Still waiting for doppelgänger/journey to far side of sun.

This.


This what? Like rosebud. Will we ever see this album????


Oh dear. Don't worry, Advise And Consent, I getcha. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I bought the original Space 1999 set 15 years ago or whenever. I'm pretty sure the price, including membership, was the same as today. That's quite impressive. It was a proverbial "no-brainer" for me then.

Look, at least with the membership you get a quarterly (I think it's quarterly) magazine that is, or was, glossy and extremely well produced, plus offers on other merchandise and events if you're interested.

I let my membership slide, but renewed for the UFO release. Same deal, then I let it slide again. big grin I guess, although I love and admire Gerry Anderson's work, I'm not the world's biggest fan. I was in it for Gray's music.

Having said that, I still think Space 1999 (forgive/forget Year 2 wink) is a hugely underrated piece of British television, and that Anderson generally never quite got the recognition he deserved... richly deserved! He was the UKs Irwin Allen and Gene Roddenberry rolled into one, and the technical innovations in his shows influenced everything from 2001 A Space Odyssey to Star Wars and beyond. Considering his contribution to UK culture's international status, the many industry careers he effectively launched, to say nothing of the cash he generated for the treasury, it's depressing that he never got more than an MBE honour (and very late in the day) from his home country.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Folks, I've been thinking about this and I think people are holding Fanderson accountable to something they've not set themselves up as.

They are not a CD label per se.

They are a fan club doing what it can for its members.

In this case, they've negotiated to be able to release previously unavailable music but to its members only and not to the general public.

Consider it a shame. Consider it a blatant disregard for non-members if you want to. But that's the context. And they don't owe it to anyone to be anything other than what they set themselves up to be.

That said, I stand by an earlier comment. I do feel sorry for people who are going to miss out because they're not members and they can't or don't want to pay the premium to get this. I've done my bit to help a non-member get access. I hope other members do the same.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

And? What are you saying that negates the above poster? It's completely unaffordable. Silva didn't want to put this out? Or any other label? Really? I find that hard to believe.

@Accidental Genius mentioned that memberships have to be mailed in. I just wanted to point out that isn't the case now, as memberships and purchases are done online. I'm not defending them in any way, just pointing this out. As for the Space: 1999 CD, yes I'll be getting it, along with the Thunderbirds release. For me, it's something I think is worth purchasing.


No, what I meant/said was that in this day and age of online memberships I'd prefer they don't charge me shipping for a membership - like a non-swag membership. The cost of shipping the membership to Canada is the same cost as the membership itself.

If someone is cool with securing a copy for me please let me know here and I'll contact you offline. (I asked first, guys. razz)

And don't get me wrong, Fanderson members. I understand why they sell these exclusively to their members; it just sucks this is the only way. But I do blame them for not allowing one shipping charge that accounts for both shipped membership AND CD set, not double when that isn't anywhere near the actual shipping cost. (Or an online membership where one can say "no thanks, don't need the exclusive swag gift for an extra $30 shipping to Canada.")

Again, no disrespect to Fanderson members.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2014 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Americans are too wary to buy into the club - they're afraid the 'taxation without representation' thing will happen again and they still wont be allowed to buy the cds.

Yeap. That's it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

big grin


big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

I like the Minbender joke, mate!

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Fanderson’s eagerly awaited Space:1999 40th anniversary Year One soundtrack CD is now available for club members to pre-order online. The CD will be launched on September 20th, and is a full update of the club’s 1998 double-CD release.



This is the very reason I joined the club and damned happy I did. It'll be great to get this 'un. Hopefully, in a year or so, they'll follow up with a complete, freshly mixed and complete Derek Wadsworth album. Hopefully with some synth overlays recreated/restored missing from some cues. Lovely music for both years.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Fanderson’s eagerly awaited Space:1999 40th anniversary Year One soundtrack CD is now available for club members to pre-order online. The CD will be launched on September 20th, and is a full update of the club’s 1998 double-CD release.



This is the very reason I joined the club and damned happy I did. It'll be great to get this 'un. Hopefully, in a year or so, they'll follow up with a complete, freshly mixed and complete Derek Wadsworth album. Hopefully with some synth overlays recreated/restored missing from some cues. Lovely music for both years.


Glad you'll be getting this, Scott. At least those who can afford it or have the membership already (not me, insert crying emoticons here) will get to enjoy your lovely cover art. You will post it on albumartexchange, right? Between you and me (SUN209), most soundtrack covers now get posted there.

Cheers!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

big grin


big grin


LOL! Was that UFO?

Oh well, Guess it's true because I'm going "WHAAAAA! WHAAAAA! WHAAAAA!" because I won't be able to get this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Oh and here is an idea: Not buying every single last re-re-re-issue could perhaps free up some hard earned cash for other purchases. Just a thought.

Unless a decent, all-encompassing release of season sets of SPACE: 1999 music happen to be one of the things one wants to free up some cash for. The price of both membership and CD, plus double shipping for both, makes this pretty impossible for anyone who is only interested in Gerry Anderson productions for SPACE: 1999.

Your "oh and here is an idea" is worded a) sarcastically and b) assumes a great deal about what purchases other fans would, could, should put their money to. Clearly if I'm sad that I can't afford this particular release, it's probably obvious that this music holds a special place in my heart - about, oh $50 worth or so, not $170 for a few CDs, regardless how much I love that music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

As a member, I *can* order one more copy for somebody. But even members are only allowed to buy a maximum of two. I can and am prepared to help one person out and buy one for you off the back of my membership. But I can only help one.

Mail me if you want that to be you and please understand I can't help any more than one. You just need to cover the cost of the CD and postage.

EDIT: Please no more requests. I've done my one and only help.

Cheers


Hi, Stephen,

Tried to find your e-mail here, to send you a request. Would love to be the guy that gets your extra CD, and I would happily find something else to thank you for your help. Perhaps a lottery of all those people who request your help? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If I'm doing the math correctly, this is not worth it for someone who (a) doesn't live in England, and (b) has the Silva Screen albums. Unless you are fabulously wealthy and obsessed with this stuff.

 
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