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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Complete releases of Hello Dolly! and Thoroughly Modern Millie would be so awesome. I just about wore out my lp of Millie as a kid. I've always loved that score. Bernstein did a perfect job of weaving everything together seamlessly. It never bothered me that his Oscar was for Millie.

Also, re My Fair Lady, I had a close friend who saw the original production on Broadway many times -- and her descriptions of the show as experienced at those performances were, in many ways, light years from how I experience the film. While I admire the film for capturing some, stressing some, of the magic of some of the original performances, it always seems to me that the film as directed and edited tends to "land" each scene, each performance, each song, each new set design, each new costume, with such weight that I find the film tiresome. It always wears out its welcome, for me at least, well before the concluding number. I guess it just seems too dark and too overdone to me in many ways.

I gather from what my friend described that the original show had more theatrical magic and more movement and didn't seem "weighty" (it was known for an ingenious use of revolving platforms as I recall), with performances balanced perfectly between comedy and drama. My friend said it just seemed to weave an effortless and magic spell. I can't say the same for the film. Just IMHO.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

Score Whore: Re: Definitely MILLIE, and please throw in THE COURT JESTER.

I've mentioned elsewhere that Glynis Johns, who is in "The Court Jester," is staying at a care facility in Hollywood where my friend Tom Bratter is also staying. She's 90 and looks quite frail. They've gone out of their way to show some of her movies in their public room with the biggest widescreen, and have so far shown her in "The Sundowners" as well as "The Court Jester." My friend Tom, who is living there, was joking with her about the famous tongue-twister about the vessel with the pestle:

http://youtu.be/TJ9f2rnjB84

How lovely Glynis looks here -- you'd cry if you saw how she looks now.


Sorry, I missed reading this. I too get sad when I see any person I like become old and frail. But at least we can enjoy Glynis in all her youthful beauty on DVD until we're all old and frail.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

Eddie Albert did sing on the stage, considerably better than Walter Matthau.

Heck yeah--remember Eddie Albert sang the theme song to GREEN ACRES under the main titles every week!


Awesome point, JS. Thanks for the reminder.


None of you have remembered that Eddie Albert played the lead in Irving Berlin's MISS LIBERTY. He sang quite a few songs.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

Anne Bancroft was definitely a singer. She sings in the film, DON'T BOTHER TO KNOCK, and was the first choice for FUNNY GIRL on Broadway. Eddie appeared in the Broadway musical, THE BOYS FROM SYRACUSE by Rodgers and Hart.

I love her turn with Mel Brooks in TO BE OR NOT TO BE singing "Sweet Georgia Brown" in Polish. ??

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 1:30 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

I enjoyed him in Phantom, tolerated him in A Funny Thing...Forum,, but oy, that 'singing voice' as Cornelius...help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=50559&forumID=1&archive=0


Ugh. He ruins PHANTOM for me. I want a complete recording with a decent tenor in the part. So much good music is not on the original cast recording.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

For me, one of the most contrived pieces of dialogue in film history occurs in HELLO, DOLLY!
Dolly: Let me cut your wings for you.
Horace: I don't want my wings cut!
Dolly: What man does, Horace, what man does.
Yeah right, like wings need to be cut up like steak.

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2019 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Barkeley   (Member)

Lennie Hayton doesn't get enough credit for his work here.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

I posted somewhere (likely in a thread about Doctor Dolittle) that we had intended to follow up with Hello, Dolly but found that the original 35mm mag audio elements had succumbed to extreme vinegar syndrome, as had Star!. So both are unfortunately past saving, leaving just the album masters.

Millie is something we'll look into at Universal at some point.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I realize this is unrelated to the subject of this thread, Mike, but would you happen to know what has become of the tapes for South Pacific?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Mike, Miss Streisand tended to save everything from all of her films, ncljuding recording sessions.
She may have the alternate tracks for Dolly
It would alsobe good to hear the finale of Before the Parade Passes by with the original chor us back up, some of which can be heard in the trailer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

It's something that Disney could look into, and with Hollywood Records distributing through Universal Music Group, at least there is now some sort of administrative connection between the film and the soundtrack album.

R&H produced South Pacific and Fox was involved as a distributor only (of the 35mm version) which likely has something to do with the fact that no music for it has ever been located at the studio.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

It's something that Disney could look into, and with Hollywood Records distributing through Universal Music Group, at least there is now some sort of administrative connection between the film and the soundtrack album.

R&H produced South Pacific and Fox was involved as a distributor only (of the 35mm version) which likely has something to do with the fact that no music for it has ever been located at the studio.


I was afraid that would be the case, though I must admit I’m a little confused by your comment about there being a 35mm version (was it just distribution of 35mm prints of the general release version or was there yet another version that was along the lines of the CinemaScope version of Oklahoma!).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2019 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Getting somewhat back on topic, Film Forum will be showing a new 4K restoration of Millie in November (though their synopsis erroneously states it was based on the Broadway show when it was the other way around), so there’s that to look forward to while we wait for an expanded release of the score.

https://filmforum.org/film/thoroughly-modern-millie-ffjr

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:59 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

R&H produced South Pacific (and Oklahoma!) through Magna Corporation for 70mm roadshow release in the U.S.. Fox distributed the movie for general release 35mm. They were reduction prints, not an alternate performance like Oklahoma!, but some footage was cut for general release.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

The music tracks were at Chace sound in the early nineties.
They are marked prerecords, as the music was played on the set.
I got to hear some of them and they were in great shape.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Harrison Castleberry   (Member)

Definitely MILLIE, and please throw in THE COURT JESTER.


I do have THE COURT JESTER on CD that was coupled with HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN. It's primarily a Danny Kaye collection. It was released by Varese back in 1994 and the reissue was produced by Bruce Kimmel.

Cheers,
Harry

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Definitely MILLIE, and please throw in THE COURT JESTER.


I do have THE COURT JESTER on CD that was coupled with HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN. It's primarily a Danny Kaye collection. It was released by Varese back in 1994 and the reissue was produced by Bruce Kimmel.

Cheers,
Harry


ANDERSON was a re-record. Not sure if any original tracks from this Goldwyn produced film still exist.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

How about SWEET CHARITY at Universal? The old LP/CD is only a small sample of what must included on the original tracks. A Blu-ray was just released, and supposedly the "roadshow" version is missing intermission and exit music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)


I do have THE COURT JESTER on CD that was coupled with HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN. It's primarily a Danny Kaye collection. It was released by Varese back in 1994 and the reissue was produced by Bruce Kimmel.


ANDERSEN was a re-record. Not sure if any original tracks from this Goldwyn produced film still exist.



Probably not. The 1994 Pioneer Special Editions laserdisc release of the film had an isolated music and effects track, which I presume would have been solely a score track if one had existed.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Mike, Miss Streisand tended to save everything from all of her films, ncljuding recording sessions.
She may have the alternate tracks for Dolly
It would alsobe good to hear the finale of Before the Parade Passes by with the original chor us back up, some of which can be heard in the trailer.


I wonder if she has the nearly one hour of footage plus songs that were cut from ON A CLEAR DAY YOU CAN SEE FOREVER. The story goes that it was originally produced as a roadshow attraction but, during post production, Paramount decided to cut it down to a regular feature length.

 
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