Dude, whatever your gripes with what wasn't included, if we don't all buy the first volume, there ain't gonna BE a second one.
Plus, it's a helluva set as is - and not just the Richard Shores music, which is what I've been wanting most of all. Sounds great, lots of variety, and plenty to love.
I agree. I'll STFU. But I just needed to vent a little. Done.
As a reminder: "You all have to promote the W3 set through many channels and communities."
Absolutely ... promoting it on FB, etc.
I posted above about the missing cue from Jack O'Diamonds and I really miss hearing that ... but as some folks above note, this is a phenomenal set of CDs and I will gladly shell out for the next set if LLL is successful with this one.
Interesting discussion overall. In listening to my own off-television set of cues and those listed above, you could certainly put together another set that would appeal to listeners. Someone on YT has published compilations of cues and in listening to those I hear plenty of ones not found on the set (some of those on YT appear to have been assigned to the wrong composer, perhaps because of the tracking found on the series).
I agree that the set needed Markowitz ... he wrote the theme and was relatively prolific in the number of scores written ... but with a few exceptions, I'll spend my time listening to Shores. And I do recall a score by Lowe that I enjoyed much when watching an episode.
Just listened to the Tiomkin ... interesting from a historical perspective and I can see why it was included ... but for me this piece is like listening to the original score for Lost in Space (not the John Williams one). Once and done ... and never again.
That said, again kudos to LLL for producing this set. I sincerely hope it sells out and launches perhaps another set! Thank you.
Got mine on July 24th which is my birthday. Good birthday present to myself.
Markowitz, Shores, Drasnin, Grusin. Such great writing. I'm really jazzed to have it. So much great stuff written for that show. I never understood why they abandoned Drasnin's Miguelito's cool little 12 tone theme in the later seasons. I always missed it. Mistake on some, not very informed or intelligent person's part.
You all did a great job on this. The mix is super.
Got mine on my birthday Came in the mail July 24th. Markowitz, Shores, Gruisn. Such great writing. I'm really jazzed to have it. So much great stuff written for that show. I never understood why they abandoned Drasnin's Miguelito's cool little 12 tone theme in the later seasons. I always missed it. Mistake on some, not very informed or intelligent part.
You all did a great job on this. The mix is super.
It's great to see that there are other fans of this music as well as the show on this forum. I thought I was the only one who cared about this musical treasure. I have personally been waiting 45 years for this music to get released. I've analyzed everything single cue in WWW every single cue in WWW, talked to the composers ( when alive ) and have followed anything I can about my favorite television show. Shores even sent me some sketches and explained how he created some of interesting sounds. This cd set is amazing and so welcome. Admitably, there are several cues and scores not present, but I am so grateful at we do have. I don't believe we should be negative and complain too much as LLL did us a great service. To reiterate what everyone is saying, I do feel that we should get the word out and help sell as many copies as possible. By doing this maybe can muster up a second edition. I got several.
I agree that Mundel Lowe's score for Night of the Amnesiac was terrific. I would also love to get Jack Pleis's score for Bubblimg Death. All of you are awesome for loving this music. I'm amazed at the knowledge of so many you have about TV music in general. Especially when it comes to the tracked in music from other shows. Very interesting. There's that great cd music of CBS westerns that has Friedhoffers music from Rawhide that was effectively used in the Red-Eyed Madman episode. Has anyone heard that? Are there any of Gunsmoke's music available that was tracked in WWW?
I've been listening carefully to this set, through disc 2 now and am really enjoying the quirky humor and creativity of these scores. I was a big fan of WWW during its network run and hearing the music again easily brings back the fun of these episodes, eagerly anticipated each week. (Friday nights, CBS for WWW and then a quick flip over to NBC for Star Trek!) There remains a treasure trove of great tv music from the 60s and 70s, (the Billy Goldenberg Columbo scores not least among them), and how wonderful it would be to see an ongoing series of releases to capture that era of tv music for us!
Kudos to the LLL bunch for putting this wonderful set together for us. Best buy of the year for me, hands down. I hope WWW sells well so that they will be motivated to do more of these sets.
“The Roarer” (1967) from Cimarron Strip composed by Richard Shores Music scenes description: some cues were tracked in four season 3 Wild Wild West episodes: “The Night of the Montezuma’s Hordes” (1), “The Night of the Arrow” (2), “The Night of the Underground Terror” (3), ”The Night of the Vipers” (4). One particular percussion-oriented cue that appear in the last scene with the vigilante posse of Act 4 is used during fight scenes in “The Night of the Montezuma’s Hordes” and “The Night of the Underground Terror”.
prologue The cavalry led by sergeant Disher crosses the desert when two blue soldiers from the fort head to it (1) act 1 At the closed down saloon, troublemaker sergeant Disher hits and fights marshal Crow when the over-excited crowd bursts in so sergeant Disher leaves from the back (2) act 2 In a barren countryside, sergeant Disher shoots a telephone pole and walks up the hill to remove the pole (1) act 3 At night in the closed down saloon, marshal Crow orders his deputies (MacGregor and Francis) to move the sergeant out of town and leaves the place to neutralize the vigilante committee (1) (4) At the fort’s officer house, a congressman, marshal Crow and the major are alerted by the gunshots of leaving sergeant Disher (2) act 4 In the desert, marshal Crow tracks the sergeant down (1) The vigilante posse rides fast and shoots at sergeant Disher (1) (3) Alone in the canyon, sergeant Disher stares at marshal Crow and the vigilante posse on their way home (1)
notes Both “Major Glory” (1967) by Morton Stevens and “The Roarer” (1967) by Richard Shores highlight a bully sergeant and his major.
I created a playlist for all the season 1 material from the La La Land Records set. It has 56 tracks and it lasts 2 hours 6 minutes. The overall listening experience is very fluid and pleasant.
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Inferno: Main Title, Season One Richard Markowitz Inferno: Special Prisoner/Guerillas Veware Richard Markowitz Inferno: Dressing For Action Richard Markowitz Inferno: West Rides In/Quemada/Versatile Race Richard Markowitz Inferno: Palais De Chance/Lydia's No Slouch Richard Markowitz Inferno: To The Cemetary/Very Dead Colonel Richard Markowitz Inferno: Even Wilder West/Light The Fuse Richard Markowitz Inferno: Meanwhile Back At The Train/Signal Light/Loaded Pool Game/Wing Fat's Demise Richard Markowitz Inferno: Celebration/Poor Friend Sam Richard Markowitz Inferno: End Title, Pilot, Unused Richard Markowitz Inferno: Main Title, Pilot Richard Markowitz
Wizard Shook the Earth: Dr. Nielsen's Fading Rating Robert Drasnin Wizard Shook the Earth: Sweet Greta/The Cross-Bow Incident Robert Drasnin Wizard Shook the Earth: Lower Westphalian Dance Suite Robert Drasnin Wizard Shook the Earth: A Kiss For The Cause/Iron Maidenform Robert Drasnin Wizard Shook the Earth: How The West Was One/How The West Was Two Robert Drasnin Wizard Shook the Earth: The Clock Tower/Goodbye Greta Robert Drasnin
Puppeteer: Puppeteer Titles/Intentional Clues/Three Of A Kind Dave Grusin Puppeteer: Vivid's Waltz Dave Grusin Puppeteer: Contest/Death Dave Grusin Puppeteer: Sentence/Mr. Skull/Discovery: The Same Bag Dave Grusin
Sudden Death: Gas Attack Richard Markowitz Sudden Death: Prussic Acid Richard Markowitz Sudden Death: Artemus Recaptured Richard Markowitz Sudden Death: Exotic Torture/Skin-clad Payoff Richard Markowitz
Deadly Bed: Dagger Lily Robert Drasnin Deadly Bed: Monster Train/West Racked Up Robert Drasnin Deadly Bed: La Noche Robert Drasnin Deadly Bed: Showdown/Aftermath Robert Drasnin
Thousand Eyes: Phony Clock Tower/Fate Of The Delta Belle Richard Markowitz Thousand Eyes: Fait Les Jeux/Rien Va Plus Richard Markowitz Thousand Eyes: Vild Vild Vest/Job For Jennifer Richard Markowitz Thousand Eyes: Lock-Pick Sick/Coffin's Capers Crumble Richard Markowitz
Burning Diamond: Return The Diamond Richard Shores Burning Diamond: Old Fool Richard Shores Burning Diamond: Reactions/Strange Time/Cornered Richard Shores
End Title, Season One (Extended) Richard Markowitz
Dragon Screamed: Episode Title / The Wall Harry Geller Dragon Screamed: Bad Guys / The Knife Harry Geller Dragon Screamed: Princess? Harry Geller Dragon Screamed: Real Princess / Ching Ling's Destiny Harry Geller
Glowing Corpse: Greenhouse Lab / Crazy Castle Richard Markowitz Glowing Corpse: Glow Corpse Glow Richard Markowitz Glowing Corpse: Bathing In Lye Richard Markowitz
Casual Killer: Three Riders / Instant Death Robert Drasnin Casual Killer: Lori's Kiss / Sardonic Tonic Robert Drasnin Casual Killer: Cave Walk Robert Drasnin Casual Killer: Fire Fight / Ventriloquist / Last Jolt Robert Drasnin
Terror Stalked the Town: West Gets A Charge Richard Markowitz Terror Stalked the Town: A Way With A Woman / Hemostat Scalpel Richard Markowitz Terror Stalked the Town: A Phony West / Execution: Sundown Richard Markowitz Terror Stalked the Town: Artie's Bit Richard Markowitz Terror Stalked the Town: Double Kiss / Whom Fights Whom Richard Markowitz
Main Title, Unused Richard Markowitz
The Wild Wild West Theme, Marching Band Arrangement Richard Markowitz
“The Roarer” (1967) from Cimarron Strip composed by Richard Shores Music scenes description: some cues were tracked in four season 3 Wild Wild West episodes: “The Night of the Montezuma’s Hordes” (1), “The Night of the Arrow” (2), “The Night of the Underground Terror” (3), ”The Night of the Vipers” (4). One particular percussion-oriented cue that appear in the last scene with the vigilante posse of Act 4 is used during fight scenes in “The Night of the Montezuma’s Hordes” and “The Night of the Underground Terror”.
prologue The cavalry led by sergeant Disher crosses the desert when two blue soldiers from the fort head to it (1) act 1 At the closed down saloon, troublemaker sergeant Disher hits and fights marshal Crow when the over-excited crowd bursts in so sergeant Disher leaves from the back (2) act 2 In a barren countryside, sergeant Disher shoots a telephone pole and walks up the hill to remove the pole (1) act 3 At night in the closed down saloon, marshal Crow orders his deputies (MacGregor and Francis) to move the sergeant out of town and leaves the place to neutralize the vigilante committee (1) (4) At the fort’s officer house, a congressman, marshal Crow and the major are alerted by the gunshots of leaving sergeant Disher (2) act 4 In the desert, marshal Crow tracks the sergeant down (1) The vigilante posse rides fast and shoots at sergeant Disher (1) (3) Alone in the canyon, sergeant Disher stares at marshal Crow and the vigilante posse on their way home (1)
notes Both “Major Glory” (1967) by Morton Stevens and “The Roarer” (1967) by Richard Shores highlight a bully sergeant and his major.
Well, I watched The Roarer episode. Heard the great music from Shores that was used in Montezuma's Hordes. Bummed that it wasn't written for the West episode as it actually fit much better in that episode than the it did in Cimmaron Strip, in my opinion. Thanks for the tip. I love that action piece with the steel drums and rhythms.
Oddly, enough the Night of the Montezuma's Hordes was originally aired before the The Roarer by at least a week.
Just to get an idea about the released and missing scores from season 2 and how they were tracked.
The Most Recycled Scores from Season 2 episode number (…) and total of episodes […]
The Night of the Eccentrics (Richard Shores) (6,7,9,13,15,16,17,18,21,23,24,25,27) [13] The Night of the Golden Cobra (Richard Markowitz) (15,18,25,28) [4] The Night of the Raven (Richard Markowitz) (6,13,15,16,17,21,23,24,25,26) [10] The Night of the Big Blast (Richard Markowitz) (11,13,15,21,23) [5] The Night of the Returning Dead (Morton Stevens - Harry Geller) (6,9,13,22,23) [5] The Night of the Bottomless Pit (Harry Geller) (6,7,9,11,13,15,16,17,18,20,21,23,24,25,26,27) [16] The Night of the Watery Death (Morton Stevens) (6,15,17,20,22,24,26,27) [8] The Night of the Man-Eating House (Robert Drasnin) (13,15,16,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) [12] The Night of the Infernal Machines (Richard Markowitz) (16,18,20,21,24,25,26,28) [8] The Night of the Tartar (Jack Pleis) (22) [1]
Just to get an idea about the released and missing scores from season 2 and how they were tracked.
The Most Recycled Scores from Season 2 episode number (…) and total of episodes […]
The Night of the Eccentrics (Richard Shores) (6,7,9,13,15,16,17,18,21,23,24,25,27) [13] The Night of the Golden Cobra (Richard Markowitz) (15,18,25,28) [4] The Night of the Raven (Richard Markowitz) (6,13,15,16,17,21,23,24,25,26) [10] The Night of the Big Blast (Richard Markowitz) (11,13,15,21,23) [5] The Night of the Returning Dead (Morton Stevens - Harry Geller) (6,9,13,22,23) [5] The Night of the Bottomless Pit (Harry Geller) (6,7,9,11,13,15,16,17,18,20,21,23,24,25,26,27) [16] The Night of the Watery Death (Morton Stevens) (6,15,17,20,22,24,26,27) [8] The Night of the Man-Eating House (Robert Drasnin) (13,15,16,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) [12] The Night of the Infernal Machines (Richard Markowitz) (16,18,20,21,24,25,26,28) [8] The Night of the Tartar (Jack Pleis) (22) [1]
I'm sure La-La will be revising a season 2 soon. Nice vision here Member, keep them on their toes.
Just to get an idea about the released and missing scores from season 2 and how they were tracked.
The Most Recycled Scores from Season 2 episode number (…) and total of episodes […]
The Night of the Eccentrics (Richard Shores) (6,7,9,13,15,16,17,18,21,23,24,25,27) [13] The Night of the Golden Cobra (Richard Markowitz) (15,18,25,28) [4] The Night of the Raven (Richard Markowitz) (6,13,15,16,17,21,23,24,25,26) [10] The Night of the Big Blast (Richard Markowitz) (11,13,15,21,23) [5] The Night of the Returning Dead (Morton Stevens - Harry Geller) (6,9,13,22,23) [5] The Night of the Bottomless Pit (Harry Geller) (6,7,9,11,13,15,16,17,18,20,21,23,24,25,26,27) [16] The Night of the Watery Death (Morton Stevens) (6,15,17,20,22,24,26,27) [8] The Night of the Man-Eating House (Robert Drasnin) (13,15,16,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) [12] The Night of the Infernal Machines (Richard Markowitz) (16,18,20,21,24,25,26,28) [8] The Night of the Tartar (Jack Pleis) (22) [1]
Frankly, the most effective scores from season 2 remain: "The Night of the Eccentrics" (Richard Shores) "The Night of the Bottomless Pit" (Harry Geller) They're both present on the set: what a luck! The most powerful season 2 cue remains: "Mighty Titan" (culled from "The Night of the Eccentrics") which is a fast-paced and action-packed piece of music that was used to promote season 2 back in 1966.
Find the original 1966 trailer
:: Notes on Morton Stevens :: Morton Stevens' "The Night of the Returning Dead" and "The Night of the Watery Death" are tracked in the second season episodes for their sound effects only: see for reference "The Night of the Lord of Limbo" in which the sounds effects are used to evoke time traveling.
I created a playlist for all the season 2 material from the La La Land Records set. It has 36 tracks and it lasts 1 hours 24 minutes. The overall listening experience is very fluid and pleasant.
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Main Title, Season Two Richard Markowitz
Eccentrics: Gargoyle / Nothing Except Die / Small Wager Richard Shores Eccentrics: Mighty Titan / The Crown Richard Shores Eccentrics: Central Hall / Hangin' Around Richard Shores Eccentrics: Juarez's Place / Your Servant Richard Shores
Golden Cobra: Maharajah's Place / Cobra Bite Richard Markowitz Golden Cobra: Introducing Mr. Singh / Sideline Nut / Cell Mate Bait Richard Markowitz Golden Cobra: Harihar Sitar Richard Markowitz Golden Cobra: Artie's Incantation / Anyone For Polo Richard Markowitz Golden Cobra: Polo Mismatch / Oily Demise Richard Markowitz
Raven: Ghostly Street / Littlest Cowboy Richard Markowitz Raven: Indian Princess / A Game With West Richard Markowitz Raven: A Maiden Dreams / Little Man's Busy Day Richard Markowitz Raven: Cat's Paw / Raven's Flight Richard Markowitz
Bottomless Pit: Chain Gang Harry Geller Bottomless Pit: Easy Artie/Escape Harry Geller Bottomless Pit: Ready/Fire Ants/Kaut Harry Geller Bottomless Pit: Iron Fist Harry Geller Bottomless Pit: Vengeance Harry Geller
Infernal Machine: Infernal Machine Talks/Suspicious Clock/Search For Zino Richard Markowitz Infernal Machine: The Judge's Speech/Clock Shop/Little Toy Bomb/The Judge's Streudel Richard Markowitz Infernal Machine: Dressing For Action Richard Markowitz Infernal Machine: Ah Mr. West/Party Pooper Richard Markowitz Infernal Machine: Statue Of Liberty Richard Markowitz
Man-Eating House: Perchance To Dream Robert Drasnin Man-Eating House: Enter The House/Strange Happenings Robert Drasnin Man-Eating House: Unaware Pair/House Ghost/The Portrait Weeps Robert Drasnin Man-Eating House: Restoration Tour/Her Room/Her Diary/Liston's Clay Robert Drasnin Man-Eating House: In Gardens Past/Hacienda Lights Robert Drasnin Man-Eating House: Nick o'Time/Day's End Robert Drasnin
Green Terror: Knight In Armor Richard Markowitz Green Terror: Little Green Terror/Leg Of Mutton Stew Richard Markowitz Green Terror: Enter Robin Hood/Indian Wrestle Richard Markowitz Green Terror: Forest Lord Richard Markowitz Green Terror: Meany Mace/Robin's Balloon Richard Markowitz
The most powerful season 2 cue remains: "Mighty Titan" (culled from "The Night of the Eccentrics") which is a fast-paced and action-packed piece of music that was used to promote season 2 back in 1966.
I created a playlist for all the season 3 material from the La La Land Records set. It has 23 tracks and it lasts 59 minutes. As usual, the overall listening experience is very fluid and pleasant.
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Main Title, Season Three Richard Markowitz
Firebrand: Run, West, Run/O'Reilly's Plan Richard Shores Firebrand: The Trip/Pressure Point Richard Shores Firebrand: Explosion Richard Shores Firebrand: O'Reilley's Dream Richard Shores
Assassin: End Of Kiss/Poking Around Walter Scharf Assassin: The Coffee Wagon Walter Scharf Assassin: Let's Go/Protection/Threesome Walter Scharf
Jack O'Diamonds: Senorita's Smile/Real Hospitality/Stolen Horse Richard Markowitz Jack O'Diamonds: Jack O'Diamonds/To Catch A Horsethief/Sordo Catches Up Richard Markowitz Jack O'Diamonds: A Thing Of Beauty/Imperialistas/What A Man Amigo Richard Markowitz Jack O'Diamonds: Aye, Gringos/One Man Army Richard Markowitz Jack O'Diamonds: Sly Old Fox Richard Markowitz
Samurai: Lotus Blossom/A Samurai's Finis/Hannibal's Here Jack Pleis Samurai: Hannibal's Parlor Jack Pleis Samurai: Torch Jugglers Jack Pleis Samurai: Portugese Artie/Come And Get It/Madame Moustache Jack Pleis Samurai: The Secret/Gideon's Sword Jack Pleis
Undead: Drums/Zombie March Fred Steiner Undead: Signal To Mariah Fred Steiner Undead: Voodoo/The Grotto Fred Steiner Undead: Voodoo Mansion/Decadent Mansion/Mansion Burns Fred Steiner
The most exciting score of season 3 remains Richard Shores' "The Night of the Firebrand” which is Shores' Wild Wild West masterpiece. And that score alone deserves the purchase of the set, in my opinion.
I can listen to the cue "Run, West, Run" again and again because it's so addictive.
The most exciting score of season 3 remains Richard Shores' "The Night of the Firebrand” which is Shores' Wild Wild West masterpiece. And that score alone deserves the purchase of the set, in my opinion.
I can listen to the cue "Run, West, Run" again and again because it's so addictive.[/endquote
I agree. It's a masterpiece. Shores was so underrated. All of his work is so original and his musicality is terrific.
