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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)



With a bit of John Williams's string/brass writing from The Empire Strikes.


Funny that Horner's replacement score also apes the Imperial March in the opening credits. Must have been forced on both composers.


That would not have surprised me given the original film's dark nature. Delerue's six note "evil" brass theme is similar to the original "Empire" theme in A New Hope.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Delerue most likely did not have to contend with a temp track....you guy's have some wild imaginations...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Arrived yesterday. Freaking amazing and wonderful score!

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


Didnt know you were referring to the rerecording suite. It's easy to find with google:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVufJ2nK50


That's the original score arranged to re-produce the re-recorded suite. Here is the London Sessions re-recording suite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNJHF8KoR7s

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   The Cat   (Member)

Delerue most likely did not have to contend with a temp track....you guy's have some wild imaginations...

On the contrary. Delerue was given a whole tape by Clayton of what he wanted. The selection contained compositions by Prokofiev, Richard Strauss’s Death and Transfiguration, and pieces from the soundtrack of The Shining! Horner on the other hand refused to listen to the tape and when Clayton tried to send him his original "best of tape" as well as the Delerue music, he said he'd only do the film if everyone just stopped telling him what to do and let him do his own thing.

I guess sometimes I'm just miffed I'm never asked about rejected scores when they eventually do get released. razz

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Delerue most likely did not have to contend with a temp track....you guy's have some wild imaginations...

On the contrary. Delerue was given a whole tape by Clayton of what he wanted. The selection contained compositions by Prokofiev, Richard Strauss’s Death and Transfiguration, and pieces from the soundtrack of The Shining! Horner on the other hand refused to listen to the tape and when Clayton tried to send him his original "best of tape" as well as the Delerue music, he said he'd only do the film if everyone just stopped telling him what to do and let him do his own thing.

I guess sometimes I'm just miffed I'm never asked about rejected scores when they eventually do get released. razz


Yes, that was mentioned in the liner notes, but it's still no "Star Wars" temp track....

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   KevinSmith   (Member)


Didnt know you were referring to the rerecording suite. It's easy to find with google:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVufJ2nK50


That's the original score arranged to re-produce the re-recorded suite. Here is the London Sessions re-recording suite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNJHF8KoR7s


Video not available.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Both? Probably restricted since you're in Canada. Okay, go to google and enter this and hit search (you can copy and paste it):
site:youtube.com "Something Wicked This Way Comes" Delerue

And keep trying out results until something plays.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Another thing to consider is that Delerue composed and orchestrated (by himself), over an hour of music in less than two weeks, all with just paper, pencil, and piano; that is quite the feat...

Not to take away from the great Delerue's effort (two weeks to produce a score like this is by any standards, laudatory), but I wanted to iterate what I said before about the Horner "sketch," which was realized on large score paper and completely filled out (timings in magic marker, very few pencil erasures), the bold font in the upper right-hand corner of each page reading JAMES HORNER (ASCAP). If I recall the chronology correctly, Horner wrapped up work in London on Yates' "Krull" around January 4,5, 1983 and began scoring "Something Wicked" about the third week in February. Assuming he saw the new cut of the film in mid January, this would had given him about four and half weeks to compose the score (the same amount of time he had on ST 2:TWOK). Not sure how much Horner score is in the final film, but would guestimate seventy minutes. Probably "light work" for Horner after a herculean task like "Krull," which he started in late October 1982 (soon after wrapping "48 Hours").

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2015 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The recording information via intrada.com for Horner:
Composed and Conducted by James Horner.
Calliope recorded on January 2, 1983, at MCA-Whitney Studio, Glendale, California. Orchestra recorded on February 22, 23, 24, and 25, 1983, at Walt Disney Scoring Stage, Burbank, California.

There were 45 minutes on the Intrada release and that wasn't the full score, plus it was a professional edit job for a number of cues. Also, there is what may or may not be sound design or synth scoring, for the mirror labyrinth finale.

The LaserDisc isolated score clocks in at 58:31.


By the way Lukas posted a thread recently with videos of the orchestra and Horner conducting the score:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=111847&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2015 - 11:42 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I can't believe this already slipped off page one of FSM. Sure, I know everyone's opinion in subjective, but I really find this one of Delerue's most introspective and heartfelt scores, and can't believe that more people haven't expressed a similar opinion. Of course, people's unfamiliarity with the score might have something to do with that. Perhaps Intrada should post a few more, diverse, samples from the score to entice people.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yes. Although I didn't order this CD with my last order (but I will in the near future), my Intrada box normally arrives in the UK within the first two weeks of despatch.
My current order - which was posted to me on 27/11 - has still not arrived!!
I imagine quite a few people are waiting for their goodies to arrive.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

My discs have been sitting in a sorting office in Oakland, California for 6 days (!). Something Wicked Comes Very Slowly, I think. Not going to be here by Christmas, anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

My Something Wicked arrived in the UK today direct from Intrada.

Listening to it now.

This sounds so much better than that disc Universal France put out a few years ago.
Fortunately Intrada have been able to the score justice with their release, and blimey, does it sound good.

Still can't quite believe the day has come that I have this disc. One grail firmly crossed off the list.

Many, many thanks Intrada.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

My discs have been sitting in a sorting office in Oakland, California for 6 days (!). Something Wicked Comes Very Slowly, I think. Not going to be here by Christmas, anyway.

Same for me, but the package (I also ordered Edward Scissorhands) has now arrived in Los Angeles, so I hope it will now be directly send to The Netherlands.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I've been enjoying it after I removed a few boring tracks and all the extras at the end. All the Mr. Dark Theme tracks needed to go plus all that droning vocals from Night Time Carneval but now I got a solid listen without anything that seriously interrupts the experience. I could do without the rest of the cues with the boring droning vocals but they have enough interesting going on to keep.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

For me, those " boring, droning vocals " are among the highlights of the score....

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

For me, those " boring, droning vocals " are among the highlights of the score....

They are an OK musical device but when they go on for 2 minutes at a time without any development it becomes boring.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2015 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Those "boring" vocal pieces will be playing as I sit in the dark waiting to scare the living Jeebus out of kids next Halloween...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2015 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Well, as I said earlier, everybody's opinion is subjective. Personally, I love those choral cues. I find them very effective, unsettling, foreboding and chilling. As a matter of fact, they are some of my favorite parts of the score.

 
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