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 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I would recommend S U R V I V E (the name of the band and the album) until the official score comes out. It retains the same synth-pad feel of the show, and immediately conjures images of ***spoilers that I won't reveal***.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Ah yes, nostalgia and homage reign supreme once more amongst younger filmmakers at the expense of personal voice or originality. Sorry for the negativity, but this nonsense really irks me in the worst way.

We get it. You grew up in the 80's and long for the kinds of movies you saw in your childhood. Do you actually have anything to offer as storytellers, however?

And will ANY filmmaker with this 80's or 90's-stalgia fever be planning on bringing back the big thematic sound that equally-defined these eras, or are they going to stick to the "budget" approach with bygone synths?

Pass!

Rant over. Sorry.


THOR, where is the picture of that angry old man with the cane?

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Love the show! I have two episodes to go and it might very well be the best acted 'hero kids' film/show I've ever seen.

Unfortunately, the score is quite possibly the most disappointing score I've heard in a long, long time. Sure, the synthy 80's vibe fits with the time but this is a show that desperately needed a classic, 80's thematic fully orchestral score with some synth colours.

If you look back at the 80's 'hero kids' movie, the scores are all (except for maybe Flight of the Navigator and The Russkies) thematic, big orchestral scores. E.T., Explorers, The Goonies, The Monster Squad... hell, even Mac and Me got a big score from Alan Silvestri.

And it's not so much the synths that bother me, it's the actual composition. It's not good at all. It's totally forgettable, droning, non-thematic, loop based music which is, for the lack of the better word, boring. I can't believe it took TWO guys to create this.

IMO, the producers dropped the ball on this one.

-Erik-


Zzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

Ah yes, nostalgia and homage reign supreme once more amongst younger filmmakers at the expense of personal voice or originality. Sorry for the negativity, but this nonsense really irks me in the worst way.

We get it. You grew up in the 80's and long for the kinds of movies you saw in your childhood. Do you actually have anything to offer as storytellers, however?

And will ANY filmmaker with this 80's or 90's-stalgia fever be planning on bringing back the big thematic sound that equally-defined these eras, or are they going to stick to the "budget" approach with bygone synths?

Pass!

Rant over. Sorry.


THOR, where is the picture of that angry old man with the cane?


Hate to break it to you man, but it's the old man with the cane who's getting nostalgic for late '70s synth pads (and who is the target audience for the show). I think the music in the show is fine, but this kind of music is four decades old now - it's old enough to have grandkids! To today's teenagers, this just sounds like music from those ancient videogames that their dads keep in the den.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

That was constructive. roll eyes

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I don't have Netflix, so will have to catch this on Blu Ray eventually.

The main title music is nice, but it kinda grinds my gears how it's "in" to have a synth score and go on about how it's like a Carpenter score, but, the actual score...isn't. People raved over the It Follows score, but...it doesn't hold a candle to most of Carpenter's stuff. Not to single that one out but...lemme single that one out razz

The recent score to Cold In July however, was VERY much inspired by John Carpenter, and it works very well in the film.

And with respect to the composers , they say " we were just into synth ... what Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross were doing for [David] Fincher" . Um, guys, I really hope that ain't your frame of reference for electronic scores. Damn, go get a copy of Thief or Sorcerer !


I liked the show and admire the approach but agree that the score would be better served with influences of Tangerine Dream more than Carpenter- and I wouldn't really say the score is too much his style either- Carpenter threw in interesting modulation sand had a good sense of when to employ rhythmic ostinatos just like TD did. I started writing music in the 80s on synths and gobbled up every synth score I could by TD, Vangelis, and listened to other synth guys like Larry Fast, Tomita, Kitaro, etc. Btw- some of the synth sounds in the show are actually evoking '70s synth patches like the Solina which one can hear a lot of in Sorcerer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   Mr. Big   (Member)


What's interesting in the show is the fact they use very good synth music with an Amblin-like story. To use orchestral music à la Super 8 would have been SO predictable.


I like good synth scoring, too. But this is NOT good synth scoring. It's boring loops, predictable chords, with no melody or hooks.

An organic symphonic score would have give much needed dramatic weight to pivotal scenes. Also, a theme or motif for our hero kids and a motif for the bad guys would have been welcomed. Christopher Young like horror scoring for the creature and other dimension would have been spectacular. Imagine what a good composer could have done for Eleven.

The music in the show is so bland. It's a missed opportunity for something TRULY great... synth or orchestral. It's too bad that a show of this quality doesn't have the musical identity it deserved.

It makes me wish that the show WAS produced in the 80's.


I'm not a fan of the score either. I can't think of a single moment where the score enhanced the picture and can think of several where it actively detracted from it. It often feels incongruous with the picture, where the composers seem more concerned with paying tribute to John Carpenter and co than accurately reflecting and enhancing the tone of the scene or the show as a whole. And the music itself is so anonymous and generic. Take away the cool throwback electronics and it would sound interchangeable with any other low-budget Netflix original score.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2016 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Haven't seen the series, but I'm all down with this "retro" illustration style poster.

http://fr.web.img2.acsta.net/newsv7/16/06/30/17/29/506519.jpg

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2016 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

This show was HUGELY entertaining. The score has a great main theme, but I agree that it would have been nice to have some orchestra in there.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Started watching this today. Great show and loving the music with that tangerine dream vibe. ?


Actually, I thought they had licensed their music!

Two eps in I am not sure about this one.
For one thing, it's boring. The side stories with the high school lovers seems to have no purpose (so far)
Besides the movies previously mentioned as inspiration, add James Cameron's tv show DARK ANGEL.

wILL GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MORE EPS TO SEE IF IT PICKS UP STEAM
BRM


Definitely improving!
eps 3-6 have made me a convert
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm glad the show became such a hit, so that a second season is secured. You never know these days, even with wonderful series like this. Also, does anyone know why a score album has not been announced (or perhaps it has, but I haven't noticed)? I'm aching to hear this on album.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Amen to that! This score encouraged me to seek out other music by S U R V I V E, so I'd call it 110% successful

In the same vein, I would highly³ recommend Mitch Murder.
His compositions are fantastic and sounds as if he recorded in '85. Fantastic stuff.

Back on topic, the show feels to me like it's done by people who didn't actually live through the 80s. And researching just now... The Duffer Brothers were born in '84 so I guess that explains it.
Stephen King + Spielberg & Carpenter. On paper I should love this. But...

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

A soundtrack album is coming from Lakeshore Records

https://www.facebook.com/LakeshoreRecords/posts/10153623879486423

https://www.facebook.com/LakeshoreRecords/photos/a.10150593997146423.394805.7250021422/10153623975351423/

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   DJS   (Member)

I think the music from the show is more derivative of Daft Punk and today's ridiculous amount of generic, amateur synthwave in general than actual Carpenter (see Tron Legacy's teaser music, a pretty blatant swipe if you ask me). Carpenter's work was very minimalist and other than a couple tracks from BTILC (of which Howarth needs to be accredited as well) I don't hear much of today's synthwave nods in Carpenter/Howarth's music at all. What I DO hear is soulless, computer created analog drivel being hatched by every millennial who has enough money to buy the latest FL Studio software. The 80's sound these loads (and I mean LOADS...so many you'll never even find half of them even if you look for them) of artists is so cookie cutter they can barely be considered valid. Once in a while you'll get a gem in there that has barely managed to set itself apart from these wannabe clones by sheer melody and brilliance (Turbo Kid comes to mind) but it's mostly Kung Fury and it's five thousand cousins.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

You must've been watching something else then, because I heard more than a few Carpenter nods... razz

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

this is fantastic news. and pretty quick to announce. i wonder if it was in the works already or if record producers all turn on netflix and then it's a mad flurry of phone calls. should be enough good press and buzz around this show to avoid the lakeshore mystery cancellation syndrome. can't wait!

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2016 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Did anyone else catch Chief Brody's police pickup truck and the Amity police uniforms from Jaws used by the Hawkins Police?

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

What's interesting in the show is the fact they use very good synth music with an Amblin-like story. To use orchestral music à la Super 8 would have been SO predictable. And I prefer good synth scoring to bad orchestral scoring like so many wanna-be Williams/Goldsmith/Horner write nowadays.


Sorry but this is a straw man argument. No one that I hear in mainstream is channeling Williams and especially not Goldsmith or Horner. Whether it's because filmmakers don't want that or some composers just don't have the chops to evoke that style is up for debate.

As for pastiche, I don't think the current composers have done synth music from that era a particular justice. I was really into synth scores, and composing my own music using technology in the early 80s and followed every synth artist I could thanks to a recurring subscription to KEYBOARD magazine. While I don't think all of the music for Stranger Things suffers from this, I would say a lot of the electronic stylings only has a superficial resemblance to what came out in that time period.

I like the concept more than the execution. From what I've read, it sounds like the two composers only provided generic set pieces that the filmmakers needledropped in as required. This would account for the lack of connection between the music and the scenes.

I like the intro music mind you. It's distinctive and sets the tone for the show. It's more focussed compared to a lot of the incidental music for the series.




 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I think the music from the show is more derivative of Daft Punk and today's ridiculous amount of generic, amateur synthwave in general than actual Carpenter (see Tron Legacy's teaser music, a pretty blatant swipe if you ask me). Carpenter's work was very minimalist and other than a couple tracks from BTILC (of which Howarth needs to be accredited as well) I don't hear much of today's synthwave nods in Carpenter/Howarth's music at all. What I DO hear is soulless, computer created analog drivel being hatched by every millennial who has enough money to buy the latest FL Studio software. The 80's sound these loads (and I mean LOADS...so many you'll never even find half of them even if you look for them) of artists is so cookie cutter they can barely be considered valid. Once in a while you'll get a gem in there that has barely managed to set itself apart from these wannabe clones by sheer melody and brilliance (Turbo Kid comes to mind) but it's mostly Kung Fury and it's five thousand cousins.

Agreed with the Daft Punk thing. It's much more in that vein (especially that MT) than Carpenter, but I want to hear the music apart from the series like a sumbitch.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2016 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Superb score that channels Vangelis, Tangerine Dream, John Carpenter, you name it -- with such ease and beauty. My favourite TV score of the year -- by FAR! (didn't I say this already?).

For those who think it should be scored more in the style of 80s kid adventure movies (a la GOONIES or E.T. or EXPLORERS or whatever), I disagree totally. That is only one PART of this series. It's also equally much, if not more, a straight-up horror affair, so the music is just PERFECT and adds much needed tension for contemporary audiences; and even those who grew up on both kid adventure movies AND horror movies in the 80s.

Can't wait to get the album!

 
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