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 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   MaLo1989   (Member)


and the standalone TNG volumes are done. This was the last chance.

Lukas


So the score of "Half a Life" by Dennis McCarthy will never be released? frown
Too bad. But I'm not complaining though. This release of music is awesome!! Thank you very much.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   emusician   (Member)

How long can one expect this to be available? I kind of want this but money is tight and JP and BHC 1 takes priority.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   ScottyM   (Member)

LOVEEEEE THISSSSS!!!!

The wind machine TMP cue! ST: II end title without Narration! TOS bumpers and library cues in better shape!!! Missing earlier tracks!!! TNG music from the next week PREVIEWS!!! And, oh dear GOD - The Animated Series music!!!!

I cannot wait for this to arrive. Thanks you EVERYONE!!!!

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


As aside (albeit related to this topic): The orchestra listing for ST: TOS "The Naked Time" (on the LaLa Land 15 vol set) has only two trumpets, but it sounds like there are indeed three on the date. Listed: Uan Rasey (MGM principal, likely first here), Tony Terran. Would Leonard Mach, the Desilu contractor's second-call trumpet (always second to Terran on Davidson's non-Desilu accounts such as "Get Smart") have been the third trumpet? Sometimes the players are added at the end of the report (especially when someone is called in to sub at the last minute), which may be the reason of the non-listing in the booklet. Also, how did you manage to find the first two season Julian Davidson reports when I was told repeatedly by the AFM archivist that they only had the S3 (Paramount) reports (also no S1,2 M:I, either). I asked AFM to search Desilu, Desilu-Paramount, Norway Productions, everything I could think of and to no avail. And, were Courage's two August 1966 S1 sessions in the early morning (8, 9 AM) or afternoon? Thanks.


I feel like we have discussed this before...but anyway:

The Naked Time only has the two trumpet players as listed. There is no Leonard Mac, no other trumpet player, and nobody added at the end.

I have no idea how or why the AFM was able to locate something for our project but not in the past.

The Man Trap and Naked Time sessions were 1PM call times.

I am not sure I am doing you a favor by looking these things up...!

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

What's this?

MUSIC INSPIRED BY STAR TREK
Music Composed by Ron Jones
44. The Ascent (7:43)
45. Meaning (2:27)
46. Pathway to the Stars (3:17)
Total Time (44–46): 13:32


In recent years Ron Jones was asked to participate in Star Trek concerts and wrote two new pieces of music inspired by the franchise for the occasions. He has recorded those pieces (along with a third written just this year) with a combination of live players and virtual tracks at his new facility north of Seattle, SkyMuse Studios, for this album. It's really great to hear his voice doing Star Trek again!

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Lukas
Dies this mean there is hope for other filmaton like Ray Ellis Spiderman or Fantastic Voyage?

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Seems appropriate here:
"Nobody hates Star Trek like it's fans."

As for me, good looking sample set I say.
Unfortunately it's a tight xmas this year.
I'm thinking about rolling over some local smack dealers for cash.
I'll put an order in if it goes well.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

You're slipping. Normally a non-answer like that would have been personal blasphemy from you.

That came off pointlessly snotty, didn't it? (My post, not yours.) And the italics are unforgivable. My bad.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

What's this?

MUSIC INSPIRED BY STAR TREK
Music Composed by Ron Jones
44. The Ascent (7:43)
45. Meaning (2:27)
46. Pathway to the Stars (3:17)
Total Time (44–46): 13:32


In recent years Ron Jones was asked to participate in Star Trek concerts and wrote two new pieces of music inspired by the franchise for the occasions. He has recorded those pieces (along with a third written just this year) with a combination of live players and virtual tracks at his new facility north of Seattle, SkyMuse Studios, for this album. It's really great to hear his voice doing Star Trek again!

Lukas


Wow! That's very cool. I can't wait to hear this.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

DISC 3
STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
Music by Dennis McCarthy
1. Star Trek: The Next Generation Main Title
(1st season, alternate take) (1:48)

Is this the version of the main title with the extended finale that was tracked over the saucer separation sequence?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)


As aside (albeit related to this topic): The orchestra listing for ST: TOS "The Naked Time" (on the LaLa Land 15 vol set) has only two trumpets, but it sounds like there are indeed three on the date. Listed: Uan Rasey (MGM principal, likely first here), Tony Terran. Would Leonard Mach, the Desilu contractor's second-call trumpet (always second to Terran on Davidson's non-Desilu accounts such as "Get Smart") have been the third trumpet? Sometimes the players are added at the end of the report (especially when someone is called in to sub at the last minute), which may be the reason of the non-listing in the booklet. Also, how did you manage to find the first two season Julian Davidson reports when I was told repeatedly by the AFM archivist that they only had the S3 (Paramount) reports (also no S1,2 M:I, either). I asked AFM to search Desilu, Desilu-Paramount, Norway Productions, everything I could think of and to no avail. And, were Courage's two August 1966 S1 sessions in the early morning (8, 9 AM) or afternoon? Thanks.


I feel like we have discussed this before...but anyway:

The Naked Time only has the two trumpet players as listed. There is no Leonard Mac, no other trumpet player, and nobody added at the end.

I have no idea how or why the AFM was able to locate something for our project but not in the past.

The Man Trap and Naked Time sessions were 1PM call times.

I am not sure I am doing you a favor by looking these things up...!

Lukas


Just the same, I appreciate the time expended on the effort.

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

It's nice to see one of the unreleased cues I mentioned in either the request thread for this set or the thread for the ST: TNG music requests, was included. In hindsight, I think it's probably good focus was given to ST: TNG music, as I can't imagine we'll get a Volume 3. And who knows -- if this does well, maybe a Volume 2 of rarities will be done -- there were plenty of good suggestions that were not included*.




* = Greedy me still wants two certain alternate tracks from "Star Trek: First Contact". I know, it's just me. :-)

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

DISC 3
STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
Music by Dennis McCarthy
1. Star Trek: The Next Generation Main Title
(1st season, alternate take) (1:48)

Is this the version of the main title with the extended finale that was tracked over the saucer separation sequence?


I am not sure what they used there. This version is a full-length rendition of the Goldsmith theme without any cuts.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

To Lukas or anybody that would know:


What exactly was the deal with the ST: TNG theme opening anyway?


Why did it open with that synth rendition of the Courage fanfare? Was that always planned? Was that part of some longer synth piece that was junked? Was an orchestral attempted planned or made?

And as a related question, was that meant to be tagged on to McCarthy's un-used theme like it was on he old GNP pilot score CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

So I'm buying the STAR TREK II End Credits without narration, I'm so pleased it comes with almost 4 full discs of bonus material.wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I'm in tears. Tears of joy that TAS has actually happened. And tears of despair because with the dismal post-Brexit exchange rate, astronomical postage charges, the import fees we now have to pay, and me being between contracts, I just can't afford to spend the £80 it'll end up being to get it. And boy does that depress me. I feel like the kid laid up with the broken leg staring out the window at all the other kids playing in the snow.

Guys, awesome release and congratulations and thanks for your work. I just hope it's still around when I can start paying that kind of money again for this kind of stuff. I want.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

I think there is definitely too much of the Original Series represented, but there is enough of TNG to warrant a buy.

Would have liked to have seen more TNG, Voyager, DS9.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   tnpir4002   (Member)

Definitely too much TOS here, even though the material is a fresh encode coming from new sources. I also question the wisdom of putting in the ST:TE and ST:Borg OSTs. That space should've been dedicated to more TNG.

I'm especially disappointed the cue I asked for from "Starship Mine" wasn't included...it's a delightful moment and a terrific piece of music from Jay Chattaway.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   ScottyM   (Member)

Too much of the original series represented? On the 50th anniversary? Yeah, no. Considering there are releases in the works for the other series (maybe not TNG, but it's had a TON of music released already and TNG is hugely represented here) and this will no doubt close out the original series music (and TAS), this is perfect.

I have no complaints about the content of this set. Looking forward to getting it!

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2016 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Well, it was a long road, but I think this pretty much sums up my feelings.

To the studios for giving the fans something that goes against every idea of 'artists intent' and/or 'musical journey' that a lot of other studios take great pride in abiding towards. Heck, when Jeff Bond encourages studios to not listen to the fans, what possible chance do we have? You had every right to not include this track for reasons that can be defended by the composers and fans alike. But instead, you chose to listen to the fans.

To those who spoke up about wanting this track included... and those who were perfectly content with the track as it was presented on the previous two releases. We now can choose which presentation of that track that we prefer. If you hate it without the voiceover, lay it on us. I will not tell you you're wrong.

And finally to the late and great James Horner. I really wish I had the opportunity to say how much I loved his work. How I wish he was still around living his dream as a pilot and as a composer. That maybe one day I could do a little film and he would compose music for it. Well, with this track I can now fully appreciate James Horner's contribution in one of Star Trek's most important works.

To all of those and perhaps more, thank you.

 
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