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 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   John W   (Member)

So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol

You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated.

We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most.

MV


You guys absolutely made the right decision then! smile

I honestly can't thank you guys enough for what you do. Both Horner's Braveheart and Titanic were absolute cornerstones of my youth and were, without a doubt, why I became such a lover of film scores. To have these expanded editions is a dream come true. Right now, my thirteen year old self (in addition to the future 33 year old adult he would become) is giving you guys the biggest hugs you can imagine. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   Dimitrius Maximus   (Member)

Well stated, John W, these two scores were a cornerstone for me in my youth, too. I also performed arrangements of Horner’s Titanic and Apollo 13 in high school band/orchestra, which made it all the more enjoyable. I hope these expanded editions continue.

Dimitri

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)



Wow, I never knew about this additional piece of music in the film. I Googled Michael Stearns, and found the album "Encounter", which appears to be 52 minutes long. Does anyone know exactly which track was used in TITANIC, it's not credited on IMDB's page for the music in the film.


Yes. On the "Encounter" album, it is the start of track 3: "The Beacon (Those Who Have Gone Before)"


Thanks!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

And honestly, is there anyone who has even the slightest interest in this set who does not own the OST?.

Am I really the only one would would, ya know, sell the original once an expansion came out? It really boggles me every time I see people say stuff like this.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

If you're a big enough TITANIC fan to buy this new set, then you already have the OST and BACK TO TITANIC. So you have to hold on to them, big deal. I would do that anyway, just for the booklets. And of course the song will go into my expanded-set playlist.

The funny thing is: if the new LLL were a 6-CD set for the same 50 bucks, with the OST and BTT included as bonus discs, we would complain about having to "buy them again." smile

I'm going to look at this, the six TITANIC discs taken altogether, as a box set without the box. That's how I view Intrada's four BATTLESTAR GALACTICA volumes plus the Varese/RSNO re-recording. A personal box set.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   John W   (Member)

The original soundtrack has way too much sentimental value for me to ever consider getting rid of anyway. It’s not going anywhere.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well again I repeat, isn't the OST a vastly different orchestration? I believe the film tracks are quite different, thus their two different interpretations of the same score. One can't make the other obsolete.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

And honestly, is there anyone who has even the slightest interest in this set who does not own the OST?.

Am I really the only one would would, ya know, sell the original once an expansion came out? It really boggles me every time I see people say stuff like this.


No. But in this case, I see used copies are selling on Amazon for 1¢ to 5¢, so you’re not exactly missing out on a windfall here.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Well again I repeat, isn't the OST a vastly different orchestration? I believe the film tracks are quite different, thus their two different interpretations of the same score. One can't make the other obsolete.

Song aside, it's very clear the entirety of the OST is included in this new presentation and that's a great thing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   spanosdm   (Member)

This batch proves once again that you guys are the BEST in the business. And I write this with NO disrespect to the other labels.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Really, "Spymaster"? The song is "integral"? It only plays during the end credits, when more than half of the audience has left. I'd say it's evocative of the film, but not integral.
J


I said it was an integral part of the SCORE, not of the film. And it is. Read properly.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

The theme is integral to the score, not the song.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

hate the song. I hate it in the film and won't miss it on this set.

Not a fan of movie-songs in movie credits. Apart from Bond movies, now those ARE integral. Titanic would have been just fine with a orchestral summation in the end credits without pandering to marketing dept conventions with that bloody horrible muzak song

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

If you're a big enough TITANIC fan to buy this new set, then you already have the OST and BACK TO TITANIC. So you have to hold on to them, big deal

Uh....I like the music. The movie is pretty meh. But I also have WAY too many CDs already, and for me, keeping two mostly redundant CDs like that is a "big deal". I actually don't care too much about the song anyway but those suites are pretty good. Hell if I could buy them digitally (in lossless, by themselves, before anyone starts linking Amazon or whatever) just to own I would.

And incidentally, talk of how cheap the OST is doesn't factor in that there was an SACD version but that's a different story, perhaps....

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Not a fan of movie-songs in movie credits. Apart from Bond movies, now those ARE integral. Titanic would have been just fine with a orchestral summation in the end credits without pandering to marketing dept conventions with that bloody horrible muzak song

I think you'll find it was the marketing dept pandering to Horner. It was Horner who chose to create the song without, as it turns out, Cameron's knowledge. The song was fully Horner's idea.

Whatever next - An Amercan Tail without that lousy bit of muzak "Somewhere Out There"?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   knisper.shayan   (Member)

sorry, folks,
titanic is such an overrated score without soul and it´s crudely arranged, as i do remember!
no chance for this release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



I think you'll find it was the marketing dept pandering to Horner. It was Horner who chose to create the song without, as it turns out, Cameron's knowledge. The song was fully Horner's idea.

Whatever next - An Amercan Tail without that lousy bit of muzak "Somewhere Out There"?


A compromise:

How's about you don't bother with this release and maybe in 5 to 10 years' time LLL can reissue it with the song included.

Or


LLL can RECALL the entire run and hold out to clear the song in that period of time and FORGET releasing this on Tuesday.

Yeah, that'll work.

Imma go down to the thrift store and pick up a few used copies of the OST just so I have plenty of backups.

Also, yes the 5.1 surround version of the score is great - a much better mix than the OST was in 1997.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

sorry, folks,
titanic is such an overrated score without soul and it´s crudely arranged, as i do remember!
no chance for this release.


Sorry for what, being an ignorant nobody?

Don't like? Don't buy. I'll bet anything the score has more soul than you do, coming here for the sole (or is it soul) purpose of crapping on it.

You're a great human being.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

LLL, thank you for this release and especially releasing in the protection that is needed to preserve such a great score!

 
 Posted:   Nov 25, 2017 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

LLL, thank you for this release and especially releasing in the protection that is needed to preserve such a great score!

Ribbed for your pleasure.

 
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