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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Impressive! Any more Mainstream CDs in the works, Roger? Those you’ve been releasing have been such a sound improvement over the previous CDs not taken from 1st generation album masters.

Yavar


Funny thing you should ask, as I was just looking at the masters for The Collector. Trying to figure out what might be left to pair with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

This is such a fun listen.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Impressive! Any more Mainstream CDs in the works, Roger? Those you’ve been releasing have been such a sound improvement over the previous CDs not taken from 1st generation album masters.

Yavar


Funny thing you should ask, as I was just looking at the masters for The Collector. Trying to figure out what might be left to pair with it.


Don't know if it's possible, but David and Lisa on Ava is an all-time fave.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Funny thing you should ask, as I was just looking at the masters for The Collector. Trying to figure out what might be left to pair with it.


It's been 22 years since A PATCH OF BLUE was last released. (That was the co-album on the Mainstream CD release of DAVID AND LISA.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Funny thing you should ask, as I was just looking at the masters for The Collector. Trying to figure out what might be left to pair with it.

Assuming that an expanded edition isn’t possible, why not reissue it with John Barry’s King Rat, which was also on Mainstream? Could the sources/sound on that one be bettered?

On the other hand, it has been almost a quarter century since Intrada last put out A Patch of Blue, so I like that suggestion too. And Intrada didn’t balk at pairing Goldsmith with another composer on Stagecoach...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

After considering it a bit more, I think Goldsmith, Barry, and Jarre all have loyal fanbases among the film score community so it may not be necessary to double them up with each other. It might make more sense to pair any of those popular composers with a more obscure soundtrack in the Mainstream catalogue which has never even been released on CD yet. Here's their full catalogue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Records

It looks like Jarre's The Collector was their very first soundtrack release. Shortly after, they released Piero Piccioni's Moment of Truth. That was premiered on CD by CAM in the early 90s, but I don't know if they used first generation sources like you've been doing with these Mainstream titles, and you seem to like Piccioni since you released The 10th Victim. It might be worth investigating whether Nino Rota's Juliet of the Spirits has also been released in the best form it can be, as that was also a Mainstream title.

But as for the more obscure soundtracks that could be used as a pairing with the more famous composers: what about Ruby Raksin's The Lollipop Cover (56067/S6067), which they released right before Goldsmith's A Patch of Blue? Ruby was David Raksin's brother, and this was the only soundtrack album ever released of his music (aside from a bit SAE put out with other composers' on Laurel and Hardy Laughtoons Vol. 1). It has never made it to CD or been reissued in any way.

Then shortly after, there is Elliot Kaplan's The Square Root of Zero (56070/S6070). It was the first soundtrack album of his music and has never been reissued. The only later Elliot Kaplan soundtrack album was Finnegan's Wake on RCA (which I believe has also never made it to CD, and now with Sony cutting off third party licensing, likely never will unless Kritzerland has it in the pipeline...) I figured it was worth mentioning Kaplan, because Intrada did include five minutes of music by him ("Where Will the Trumpets Be?") on the great Then Came Bronson set they released.

Maybe most intriguing of all to me is Zdenek Liška's The Shop on Main Street (56082/S6082), never reissued since on LP or CD. The film itself has been released in The Criterion Collection and it won the 1966 Academy Award for Best Foreign Film:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/37171/Shop+on+Main+Street%2C+The

Lessee here...Intrada likes Quincy Jones, and his score to Walk Don't Run (56080/S6080) hasn't been released on CD since the 1991 Mainstream CD, which I'm guessing was taking from inferior sources like their other CDs at the time. There are a couple Hugo Montenegro titles (Mira!, Slaughter on Tenth Avenue, Music from Camelot) but I don't think they are film scores of his.

They released two soundtrack compilation LPs: one called Award Winning Original Motion Picture Soundtracks & Themes (56076/S6076) and one called Detectives & the Agents & Great Suspense Motion Picture Themes (56079/S6079), but looking at the tracklist I think it was mostly a compilation of tracks from other soundtracks they released in fuller form. Might be worth looking into however, in case there were any exclusive tracks released on that to make a neat extra little bonus...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The trouble with most of the remaining Mainstream LPs is that they are not a very good thematic pairing for THE COLLECTOR. At least the THAT MAN FROM ISTANBUL/THE 10th VICTIM pairing brought together two action-oriented features. THE COLLECTOR is reflective, with a sinister undertone.

WALK, DON’T RUN is basically a pop score, and furthermore, was recently reissued by Universal Music France as part of their December 2016 box set “The Cinema of Quincy Jones.” I haven’t been able to hear anything from Ruby Raksin’s THE LOLLYPOP COVER.

THE SQUARE ROOT OF ZERO has an intriguing first track, but soon devolves into fairly light stuff, and can sound a little mickey-mousey at times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhqqDVamg8&t=560s

THE SHOP ON MAIN STREET is burdened by European brass band music, dissonant violins and flutes, and a few Czech songs that sound like they are being heard over a 1940s radio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhqqDVamg8&t=560s

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH is a film about the rise and fall of a famous toreador. Piccioni’s score is a pastiche of organ, flamenco, bossa nova, and soft pop. Still, I’d rate it the best of these three I’ve linked to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNzqyDYAzY

As for JULIET OF THE SPIRITS, I’d rather wait and see if Quartet is going to give that the deluxe treatment that they have been giving to the other Rota/Fellini scores.

Other possibilities, from the ava catalog, are A HOUSE IS NOT A HOME and THE TROUBLEMAKER. The first is also a light score, which has the advantage of incorporating the Burt Bacharach-Hal David title tune into Joseph Weiss’s score (although no vocal of the tune appears on the soundtrack recording). It’s melodic in a way that THE SQUARE ROOT OF ZERO is not. And although the film is set in New York, there are several Dixieland tracks in the score, presumably to evoke the 1920s time period of the film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTsItsdMv-s

I haven’t been able to hear anything from THE TROUBLEMAKER, but the score from this comedy takes up only one side of the ava LP, with Side B being filled with other movie themes, taken mainly from Elmer Bernstein’s ava albums, which we already have.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

THE SHOP ON MAIN STREET is burdened by European brass band music, dissonant violins and flutes, and a few Czech songs that sound like they are being heard over a 1940s radio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhqqDVamg8&t=560s

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH is a film about the rise and fall of a famous toreador. Piccioni’s score is a pastiche of organ, flamenco, bossa nova, and soft pop. Still, I’d rate it the best of these three I’ve linked to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNzqyDYAzY


THE MOMENT OF TRUTH has already been released on CD both in Italy and in Japan (I have the Japanese edition) with the original artwork and full LP programme.

Also I wanted to point out that there are no Czech songs in THE SHOP ON MAIN STREET. The vocal pieces are in Yiddish and Slovak.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The trouble with most of the remaining Mainstream LPs is that they are not a very good thematic pairing for THE COLLECTOR.

Is that always important? I mean, the first of the recent Intrada releases of Mainstream LPs from the original tapes was Stagecoach paired with The Heroes of Telemark. Those scores sure don't have much in common! Lukas did plenty of unusual twofers at FSM when that's what could be licensed together. As long as the stuff "gets out there" for collectors -- particularly if it's never been on CD before -- I think some unusual pairings can be allowed. Of course if you're arguing those other obscure scores just aren't worth releasing that's another matter. I'd be really curious to hear the Ruby Raksin score.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2019 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Impressive! Any more Mainstream CDs in the works, Roger? Those you’ve been releasing have been such a sound improvement over the previous CDs not taken from 1st generation album masters.

Yavar


Funny thing you should ask, as I was just looking at the masters for The Collector. Trying to figure out what might be left to pair with it.


Don't know if it's possible, but David and Lisa on Ava is an all-time fave.


Winner winner, chicken dinner. And I say that as a vegetarian. Took some time to find the stereo master to David and Lisa but we did find it and will pair it with The Collector.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2019 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

and will pair it with The Collector.

Ears raise, do what now????

I can replace that wonky Mainstream CD I played to death???

Dave & Lis is on Amazon Prime now - heard about it for years, never watched it. Checked the MT the other day & it landed on the radar. Lovely string business. Might b-side with BUNNY LAKE perhaps, in my rotation?

Regardless, new/old Jarre, always a win.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

The Collector is one of my top 2 or 3 Jarre scores: under-appreciated and even maligned at times. But its a score that sticks with you. The first Jarre score I ever bought back in the Mainstream days of the 60s.

As far as coupling it . . . Please put it out. On its own, with a like score, with a Mitch Miller Sing-Along, I don't care.

According to Herrmann, Wyler considered Herrmann but didn't want "a Hitch man."

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Winner winner, chicken dinner. And I say that as a vegetarian. Took some time to find the stereo master to David and Lisa but we did find it and will pair it with The Collector.

Wow, cool! I'm looking forward to new liner notes for David & Lisa since this was apparently the composer's only film score. I wonder if there's any interesting background about that.

Thanks Roger, and thanks Bruce for making the suggestion to Roger.

Yavar

 
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