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In addition to Goldfinger, YOLT, We Have All the Time in the World, and Diamonds Are Forever, I would add Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang if it had remained in the film, as a song.
I think the lack of Barry-Bond oscar nominations have more to do with the music branch being very conservative in nominating Barry--7 nominations in close to 40 years. Of course, with 5 oscars, (to steal a line from The Lion in Winter) not all eyes will weep for him. They dished out nominations for songs to McCartney, Hamlisch, and Conti during the Barry years, and Hamlisch for score. If only Barry had composed a Bond score as good as or better than The Spy Who Loved Me. Oh, that's right, he did. Eleven times.
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Aug 4, 2018 - 8:43 AM
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Honestly, at the very least, GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD and DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, were good enough to be nominated for best song.
They are all great songs.
But, at the time, I guess James Bond films were the kind of 'pop' entertainment Oscar didn't want to reward. Whereas in it's fiftieth anniversary year, it's like Bond films had finally become something to celebrate.
Cheers
Armstrong serenading Bond and Tracy, is totally unique from all the Bond perspectives. Kind of like Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head from the other fella's serenading interlude. Those songs will always have a certain charm that will never go away for those who lived through them.
This notion of Bond title songs suddenly becoming Oscar worthy does not add up with me. So, at what point did Bond go from the jurisdiction of the 'pop' scene to 'academy award' distinction?
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Well, underrated because it wasn't nominated, again probably because of the
nature of the Bond films.
And underrated because I never hear it on the radio, on TV, or anywhere else
except when Starz replays the Bond films.
But I see your point about the Oscars. In a way, they're like the Kardashians.
The title song was very much on the radio in 1967. It was a popular song that summer. (I was 12 in '67. Saw the film twice.)
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The same goes for nearly a dozen titles. For instance, the only reason why 'We Have all the Time in the World' ever got public attention outside of its film was because Guinness vodka used it for one of their commercials in the early nineties.
Alex
Radio has almost always been stingy with James Bond songs. Goldfinger was a monster hit, on the strength of the song itself. The other exceptions have been when the song was great and artist was VERY hot at the time. Live and Let Die, Nobody Does it Better, and For Your Eyes Only were played in constant rotation. AVTAK was a big hit. Skyfall had, as I remember it, about a two week radio honeymoon at best, and then it was made to disappear.
I think the very thing we love about Bond songs, the Bond connection, is the thing that makes "hipper than thou" types want to kill them off. This goes back to Octopussy, which was not a cool entry in the series. Moore was looking too old and genteel for the part, the song was "way too easy," and the film title was an embarrassment in many circles. I think that was the cultural juncture when the in-crowd started to disdain James Bond. The Craig era has brought him back, to a point, but not back to where he once was. It's almost impossible now for a Bond song to live beyond the film, the way Live and Let Die and Nobody Does it Better did.
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Aug 8, 2018 - 9:54 PM
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Radio has almost always been stingy with James Bond songs. Goldfinger was a monster hit, on the strength of the song itself. The other exceptions have been when the song was great and artist was VERY hot at the time. Live and Let Die, Nobody Does it Better, and For Your Eyes Only were played in constant rotation. AVTAK was a big hit. Skyfall had, as I remember it, about a two week radio honeymoon at best, and then it was made to disappear.
I think the very thing we love about Bond songs, the Bond connection, is the thing that makes "hipper than thou" types want to kill them off. This goes back to Octopussy, which was not a cool entry in the series. Moore was looking too old and genteel for the part, the song was "way to easy," and the film title was an embarrassment in many circles. I think that was the cultural juncture when the in-crowd started to disdain James Bond. The Craig era has brought him back, to a point, but not back to where he once was. It's almost impossible now for a Bond song to live beyond the film, the way Live and Let Die and Nobody Does it Better did.
Well said. I must add that the Bond songs might, just might come back to stardom one day if the films themselves change and the filmmakers start making real cinema again. Despite a few high points in the Craig series, they have mostly become generic action pictures, and audiences have taken them as such: overblown action sequences, characters who look more like robots than human beings - you name it. We need a real story, with real characters and real-life situations, such as those in From Russia With Love and, to a lesser degree, Goldfinger.
Alex
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Aug 10, 2018 - 3:46 AM
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Well said. I must add that the Bond songs might, just might come back to stardom one day if the films themselves change and the filmmakers start making real cinema again. Despite a few high points in the Craig series, they have mostly become generic action pictures, and audiences have taken them as such: overblown action sequences, characters who look more like robots than human beings - you name it. We need a real story, with real characters and real-life situations, such as those in From Russia With Love and, to a lesser degree, Goldfinger.
Alex
I am having a difficult time warming up to the Craig series, but I may be just attached to
Connery as lead; although I found Timothy Dalton to be believable and The Living Daylights
to be a competent film. I am having a difficult time finding an identifiable plot to latch onto
in the Craig movies, although I admit if a young Connery was playing Bond I would probably
pay more attention.
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Aug 11, 2018 - 4:36 PM
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Alex Klein
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I am having a difficult time warming up to the Craig series, but I may be just attached to
Connery as lead; although I found Timothy Dalton to be believable and The Living Daylights
to be a competent film. I am having a difficult time finding an identifiable plot to latch onto
in the Craig movies, although I admit if a young Connery was playing Bond I would probably
pay more attention.
I really tried to get into the Craig films, but they just don't move me or interest me at all. As bad as some of the Connery entries were (Diamonds are Forever?), they at least had great music, good acting, and plots that were much more believable than what we're getting nowadays. Indeed, I believe the last great Bond movie was Goldeneye (and the score sucked balls, but it didn't really hurt the picture). The rest are all junk, IMO.
Alex
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What is weird is that Barry never did a "More music from..." lp. Considering the interest in the music its strange.
brm
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