I really like Tron Legacy, but it hardly did anything new nor did it change how films are scored in general. So not particular "important" in film score history.
I agree. A very popular score, with major crossover appeal (obviously, since it was Daft Punk), but not really an important score. It's basically INCEPTION with some added electronic textures.
Depends on what you mean by important. I think it is important in a sense that it brought film music to a wider audience that you rarely seen from other scores. It is also rare that an electronic score was so well received from both music critics and the casual fans.
I really like Tron Legacy, but it hardly did anything new nor did it change how films are scored in general. So not particular "important" in film score history.
I agree. A very popular score, with major crossover appeal (obviously, since it was Daft Punk), but not really an important score. It's basically INCEPTION with some added electronic textures.
Depends on what you mean by important. I think it is important in a sense that it brought film music to a wider audience that you rarely seen from other scores. It is also rare that an electronic score was so well received from both music critics and the casual fans.
Doesn't the FILM have to reach a wide audience for the SCORE to be influential?
Well, since "important" isn't defined by the OP I'll define it for myself. The last important score is the last one to have strong melody, which is the first Pirates of the Caribbean. Nothing since has had a classic, melodic theme you can recall by just thinking about it.
To me this nominee has solid ground. Just listen to practically any superhero score since...shoot, practically any ACTION score since.
I like the DKR score just a bit better, mostly because the dramatic parts moved me and I (oddly enough) liked the synths in that one.
Try listening to Total Recall and then the DK score. Kind of lessens DK's "groundbreaking" bid. As I mentioned, Zimmer himself has sung great praises to both TR and Jerry.
And as I mentioned before, there would be no BATMAN BEGINS (and subsequently THE DARK KNIGHT and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES) if it hadn't been for the BOURNEs.
It's a very easy change to chart. Zimmer had dominated action music through the 90s with his power anthem style, but by the time BOURNE came around, that particular style was waning (the POTC movies being the power anthem's 'last gasp', in a way). With BOURNE, Powell introduced a far leaner approach -- basically just a regular ostinato with slight harmonic variations on top. Everyone copied it in the years after, and there's no doubt in my mind that this caught Zimmer's attention too, when he began work on the Nolan BATMANs. Of course, he then developped that approach further, especially with INCEPTION, which in turn became massively influential in its own right.
Here's one (of many) great examples of how the BOURNE scores became THE temp track influence in the years after:
And as I mentioned before, there would be no BATMAN BEGINS (and subsequently THE DARK KNIGHT and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES) if it hadn't been for the BOURNEs.
It's a very easy change to chart. Zimmer had dominated action music through the 90s with his power anthem style, but by the time BOURNE came around, that particular style was waning (the POTC movies being the power anthem's 'last gasp', in a way). With BOURNE, Powell introduced a far leaner approach -- basically just a regular ostinato with slight harmonic variations on top. Everyone copied it in the years after, and there's no doubt in my mind that this caught Zimmer's attention too, when he began work on the Nolan BATMANs. Of course, he then developped that approach further, especially with INCEPTION, which in turn became massively influential in its own right.
Here's one (of many) great examples of how the BOURNE scores became THE temp track influence in the years after:
BUT...did the Bourne get similarly influenced by Total Recall?
Of course, in this particular instance, we're only talking Hollywood action music, which is but one of many areas. Plus, there are also many other ways a score can be 'important' than just being influential. With so few specific parameters to work from, we're all just talking all over the place here.
Of course, in this particular instance, we're only talking Hollywood action music, which is but one of many areas. Plus, there are also many other ways a score can be 'important' than just being influential. With so few specific parameters to work from, we're all just talking all over the place here.
I really like Tron Legacy, but it hardly did anything new nor did it change how films are scored in general. So not particular "important" in film score history.
I agree. A very popular score, with major crossover appeal (obviously, since it was Daft Punk), but not really an important score. It's basically INCEPTION with some added electronic textures.
Depends on what you mean by important. I think it is important in a sense that it brought film music to a wider audience that you rarely seen from other scores. It is also rare that an electronic score was so well received from both music critics and the casual fans.
Doesn't the FILM have to reach a wide audience for the SCORE to be influential?
Not sure why you are asking this question, but the answer is no I think. The Thin Red Line was underwhelming at the box office but the score is considered to be influential.
It was the work of one of the finest composers of our time (who rarely scores films -- making it a very special event). The music played a central and foreground role in the film -- being literally the voice of the title "character". The music went-on to enjoy crossover appeal (still uncommon for film music) and there have been many concerts featuring Corigliano's music, and screenings of the film with a live orchestra (some featuring Joshua Bell himself). Corigliano's "Chaconne" has been absorbed into the repertoire, and enjoyed frequent performances, while the composer has since expanded the Chaconne into a full-fledged violin concerto.
