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 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

The stereo session tracks to "Marnie" have been in the collector "grapevine" for a number of years now. Since Stylotone's promo is somewhat vague about their source it wouldn't surprise me if their material wasn't obtained from Universal.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

...In the end, the only decision is to buy or not buy. They will you loud and clear if it stiffs. Then they will reassess. But if it sells well and breaks even, they'll keep doing it this way...

Which pretty much sums it up. This is why I will not purchase this release, or the Twisted Nerve release. Why encourage them to do it again by throwing money in their direction? This is about the principle of the thing. I won't start bashing Stylotone again. I did enough of that in the other thread. As much as I would love to have both scores, I will find many other gems from our beloved labels to spend my money on. Imagine if LLL, Intrada, Quartet, etc. were to adopt the same practice of selling a silly package like this at a high price. Would we purchase anyway? I highly doubt it. Stylotone knows what they do. It's a disservice to the fans who clamor for these scores. I don't think they give a damn about what would make their customer happy. There is absolutely no reason why they couldn't have some kind of tiered setup, where one could purchase the LP or CD only. It really is hard to understand the reasoning behind it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

DUMP THE TEA INTO BOSTON HARBOR ! Get my gist ?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

DUMP THE TEA INTO BOSTON HARBOR ! Get my gist ?



Cody, you and Niall grab your torches and pitch forks and storm the front door of Stylotone and demand a CD-only for $20. I'll cover their back door with the dogs! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 10:47 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Did anyone compare the sound of Stylotone's Khartoum CD with the FSM release? Was there a worthwhile difference?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There is absolutely no reason why they couldn't have some kind of tiered setup, where one could purchase the LP or CD only. It really is hard to understand the reasoning behind it.


Unless they "lovingly" put these packages together for the sheer joy of it (and I don't doubt that you could find uber-fans of almost any musical work or film that would do it purely for love), then its about maximizing revenue. If it's for love, then they don't care about making a profit. They just want to share their love with other like-minded fans. And your purchase or non-purchase will have no effect on their future projects.

If it's about maximizing revenue, then they may be right or they may be wrong. A non-purchase may help to convince them that they are wrong--if the project suffers a loss. But even a small profit may be sufficient proof that they are on the right track. "Surely," they might reason, "we would have incurred a loss if our package was any less comprehensive than it currently is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2019 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Did anyone compare the sound of Stylotone's Khartoum CD with the FSM release? Was there a worthwhile difference?


Apples and oranges. The FSM was a re-recording and was in stereo, while the Stylotone was the original tracks and in mono.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

There is absolutely no reason why they couldn't have some kind of tiered setup, where one could purchase the LP or CD only.

There is one very obvious reason: It might make them less money.

I mean, once the mastering is done, and the licensing, and all that, with this set they can charge roughly two-and-a-half times what they would likely charge for the one or the other, likely at only marginally higher manufacturing costs.

Now you might say "But they would sell more copies to make up for it," and maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. They don't know, I don't know, you don't know. All they're doing is guessing and hoping.

So could you say it was a mercenary decision? Sure. But if they have the rights, they run the risk, they can do as they choose. It may ultimately be a smart financial decision, or a foolish one, but it isn't inexplicable.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 2:33 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I share the misgivings of others here, but judging by TWISTED NERVE (2016), this will be the only legit availability of the complete original score. I'm not into download or vinyl, but I know damn well that I will spring for this release as long as it includes a CD ala NERVE.

The CD more than interests me. Though not exactly a North By Northwest, I'm a fan of both this score and movie, to me it's the last thing Hitch did that was really good (and yes, I do like Frenzy and Family Plot).


 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   bcommunal   (Member)

I don’t know what to think about all these suspicions and negative reacts on Stylotone. I bought their beautiful mono Khartoum lp/cd set and the mastering is fine on the both formats (no big volume increase or hot mastering, in any case). For me this Marnie album is a nice surprise with an original concept. Is it possible for an european label to produce some historic soundtrack albums or Americans are they the only and the great lords of the rings forever?
By the way, who produce the best film music anthology set of Maestro Quincy Jones for years - with big thanks of Quincy - 5 wonderful cd's for 25 euros ?

https://www.amazon.fr/Cinema-Quincy-Jones-6CD-Capbox/dp/B01M2TT6X3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1550139768&sr=8-1&keywords=Quincy+Jones

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 3:33 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

And after Brexit this baby would cost me then also import taxes ??

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


... Again, they're very cagey about where any of this is coming from and why? If it's legit and properly licensed from Universal or wherever, why are they not mentioning that?


Finally, for those who don't know - it is stereo, unlike the horrid boot, which is mono. That said, has anyone heard the Marnie EP - was it indeed stereo and did it indeed sound good?


I have the Marnie EP and it is in excellent stereo. The disc gives copyright to USI B Music Publishing (which I think is part of Universal). Traditionally, UK and other European labels seem to often credit the music publisher, rather than the studio.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I don’t know what to think about all these suspicions and negative reacts on Stylotone. I bought their beautiful mono Khartoum lp/cd set and the mastering is fine on the both formats (no big volume increase or hot mastering, in any case).

Here's something to think about: Stylotone released "Khartoum" 18 months after Twilight Time released the blu-ray with the isolated music track.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

DUMP THE TEA INTO BOSTON HARBOR ! Get my gist ?



Cody, you and Niall grab your torches and pitch forks and storm the front door of Stylotone and demand a CD-only for $20. I'll cover their back door with the dogs! smile


PFK, I'll hold the horses for you and Cody!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Well I have preordered this -- it is one of my favorite films and scores. As pointed out elsewhere, it is unfortunate that they picked a still from "The Birds" for the cover. ?!?

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

Twisted Nerve didn't sound "great"
I've heard the original, a remaster someone else did (Bruce will know), the Polydor based CD, and the Abbey Road remaster. The Abbey Road version wins hands down, IMO. But all a matter of opinion of course.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

I don’t know what to think about all these suspicions and negative reacts on Stylotone. I bought their beautiful mono Khartoum lp/cd set and the mastering is fine on the both formats (no big volume increase or hot mastering, in any case).

Here's something to think about: Stylotone released "Khartoum" 18 months after Twilight Time released the blu-ray with the isolated music track.


Do you know where Twilight Time got the tracks from? Guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

Here's something to think about: Stylotone released "Khartoum" 18 months after Twilight Time released the blu-ray with the isolated music track.

Labels like Intrada and Varèse Sarabande have done the same.

Do you mean that Khartoum was not properly licensed in spite of what they announced ?

"Stylotone in association with The Frank Cordell Estate and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer is proud to announce the World Premiere Release of 'Khartoum - Original MGM Motion Picture Soundtrack’ on its 50th anniversary."

"The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack composed and conducted by Frank Cordell for ‘Khartoum’ has been assembled, mastered and cut at London’s world famous Abbey Road Studios to produce a stunning new master."

https://store.stylotone.com/products/khartoum-super-deluxe-edition

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

If they release one item each three years, why so much worries about the format issue? I am in the UK and much more worried about import fees for other labels and Brexit right now, whether or not this comes with some useless vinyl is not a prime concern.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Jerry Horne   (Member)

Would it be possible that Stylotone has their sights set on 'Frenzy'?

 
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