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 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

My guess is Antheil, which would make this Bruce's third Antheil release.

Piano Concerto No. 1 (1922)
Piano Concerto No. 2 (1926)
Violin Concerto (1946)

On the other hand, I heard that the world premiere performance of Piano Concerto No. 1 was in 2001...so maybe not!

There was also "Concerto for Chamber Orchestra" which I gather was an arrangement of his Octet for Winds...

Yavar


Not Antheil. This composer is new to Kritzerland. I was very taken with his music all the way back to 1959, so this is a treat to do.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

David Amram?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

Bruce (or anyone else who knows), is the Scenario for Orchestra performed by the Columbus SO?

Thanks,

Jay

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


This composer is new to Kritzerland. I was very taken with his music all the way back to 1959, so this is a treat to do.


1959

Was this the year that Elie Siegmeister took Mr. Kritzerland to Cordura?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

That’s a good guess. I know of a violin concerto, clarinet concerto, flute concerto, and piano concerto. So if it’s a composer who only wrote three I’m not sure he fits....

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

According to the Gail Kubik Collection at Kansas State University, the music for "I Thank a Fool" wasn't dropped because of musical considerations, but rather because of a rights issue (quote from 1962 entry):

"1962 – Scores film, I Thank a Fool, for MGM (Europe); however, Kubik refuses to give the studio rights to the music and it is removed from the film".

The Gail T. Kubik Collection:
https://www.lib.k-state.edu/depts/sc_rev/findaids/pc1995-06.php

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

According to the Gail Kubik Collection at Kansas State University, the music for "I Thank a Fool" wasn't dropped because of musical considerations, but rather because of a rights issue (quote from 1962 entry):

"1962 – Scores film, I Thank a Fool, for MGM (Europe); however, Kubik refuses to give the studio rights to the music and it is removed from the film".

The Gail T. Kubik Collection:
https://www.lib.k-state.edu/depts/sc_rev/findaids/pc1995-06.php


I think that may be a bit of urban legend, frankly.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)


This composer is new to Kritzerland. I was very taken with his music all the way back to 1959, so this is a treat to do.


1959

Was this the year that Elie Siegmeister took Mr. Kritzerland to Cordura?


Not an American composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


Not an American composer.


British
French
Italian
Japanese
or
Russian?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

That’s a good guess. I know of a violin concerto, clarinet concerto, flute concerto, and piano concerto. So if it’s a composer who only wrote three I’m not sure he fits....

Yavar


I don't believe Bruce said this composer only wrote three concertos. I thought he just meant there would be three concertos on the CD. I don't know how much the 1959 date helps either. Does that mean his output only goes back to 1959? Or it that date just when Bruce heard the music for the first time and loved it? Also doesn't help date the concertos, because again, Bruce does not specify that it was those particular pieces that first grabbed him.

A couple of possibilities:

Toshiro Mayuzumi?

Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2019 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

That’s a good guess. I know of a violin concerto, clarinet concerto, flute concerto, and piano concerto. So if it’s a composer who only wrote three I’m not sure he fits....

Yavar


I don't believe Bruce said this composer only wrote three concertos. I thought he just meant there would be three concertos on the CD. I don't know how much the 1959 date helps either. Does that mean his output only goes back to 1959? Or it that date just when Bruce heard the music for the first time and loved it? Also doesn't help date the concertos, because again, Bruce does not specify that it was those particular pieces that first grabbed him.

A couple of possibilities:

Toshiro Mayuzumi?

Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco?


No to those two wonderful composers. 1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.




Robert Farnon (born in Canada)?


 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

No to those two wonderful composers. 1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.

Francis Chagrin?

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)



No to those two wonderful composers. 1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.


My first thought for this clue was Gerard Schurmann (born in Indonesia), but I think all his concertos are available in several recordings. (Although I would certainly buy a Kritzerland produced version, if that was it).
He only scored a handful of films and his HORRORS OF THE BLACK MUSEUM is 1959.

BTW. Really enjoying the Gail Kubik CD. Intense, exciting stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.

Jolly good, chaps ... I managed to fit a Sherlock Holmes cap over my stone-head to arrive at quite a few deductions.

In California in 1959, the wee 11-year Bruce saw the 1954 production of Orwell's Animal Farm, and heard its music by Mátyás Seiber.

Mr. Seiber was born in Budapest, Hungary, but toiled within the British film industry until his untimely death in 1960.

Seiber scored maybe 20 films, but has a more extensive oeuvre within the classical music field.

Possible contenders for the upcoming Kritzerland CD?
Let us ponder:

-) Concertino for clarinet and string orchestra (1928)
-) Notturno for horn and string orchestra (1944)
-) Elegy for viola and chamber orchestra (1954)
-) Three Pieces for cello and orchestra (1956) [classified as a concerto]

Are we getting warmer, Mr. K?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

1959 was the first time I saw this person's name and heard a film score by him. He didn't write all that many, but I really like his work and his classical works are wonderful. This composer considered himself an English composer, despite being born elsewhere.

Jolly good, chaps ... I managed to fit a Sherlock Holmes cap over my stone-head to arrive at quite a few deductions.

In California in 1959, the wee 11-year Bruce saw the 1954 production of Orwell's Animal Farm, and heard its music by Mátyás Seiber.

Mr. Seiber was born in Budapest, Hungary, but toiled within the British film industry until his untimely death in 1960.

Seiber scored maybe 20 films, but has a more extensive oeuvre within the classical music field.

Possible contenders for the upcoming Kritzerland CD?
Let us ponder:

-) Concertino for clarinet and string orchestra (1928)
-) Notturno for horn and string orchestra (1944)
-) Elegy for viola and chamber orchestra (1954)
-) Three Pieces for cello and orchestra (1956) [classified as a concerto]

Are we getting warmer, Mr. K?


No - what I saw in 1959 was a film released that year - in fact, I saw it on its opening day.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Was it Jet Storm by Thomas Rajna? (another Hungarian-born English composer)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

No - what I saw in 1959 was a film released that year - in fact, I saw it on its opening day.

It could be the German-born composer Franz Reizenstein who then settled in England during the 30s. He scored THE MUMMY in 1959.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)


No - what I saw in 1959 was a film released that year - in fact, I saw it on its opening day.


Sounds like HORRORS OF THE BLACK MUSEUM (Apr 29, 1959) and Gerard Schurmann to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2019 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

While Schurmann or Chagrin haven't been ruled out yet, I think Stefan has come the closest with Franz R.

I can imagine a lot of children & families wishing to see THE MUMMY when it was first screened.

Regarding Reizenstein, he wrote 2 piano concerti, one each for cello or violin and a concerto for string orchestra.

 
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