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I think the biggest reaction I've ever had to a misprint or mislabled track was a brief tut then I moved on.
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Not tholding my breath for a PREDATOR 2 fix, that one is actually a problem, the alternates.
Tholding my breath for corrected soundtrtacks is folly!
OK...what's the exact problem with Predator 2? That one I tagged using the back insert, so it sounds like I have some re-tagging to do.
That part is not sarcasm unfortunately. The alternates on disc two are all backwards, reversed. A mess. If you just play and dont check the cue list, no worry. It's just the alternates that are screwed up. The thread for that release surely has the right listing.
I'd pull it but I have this Infinity stones, Mondo, Avengers color bait n switch debacle on my plate now lol....
EDIT: tried to find the thread & drama...but the search engine is expletive....
The alternates on disc two. Nothing matches. Re-listen,Re-check, Re-tag & 'vaya con Dios'
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Jul 9, 2020 - 8:01 PM
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BryonDavis
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"We all make mistakes" is just a cop out. Somewhere this is somebody's favourite score - and there's a blatant error on the front cover.
LLL reprinted Star Trek: The Motion Picture because "Soundtrack" was spelled wrong on thr spine. Will Varese do the same here? I suspect not. And that's why people get annoyed.
That's US Marshals with a track time error, Seaquest without the TV version main title... and this. You get the idea.
But of course, they're only human...
I completely agree with this. I understand where @drivingmissdaisy is coming from--to an extent. Yes, people make mistakes. Yes, many of us probably don't understand first-hand what all is involved. And, yes...sometimes people will automatically jump on the smallest things and declare their feelings in some very harsh, overly critical, and sometimes insulting ways. That is when it's completely unacceptable.
Now, that being said...
We are customer of these labels, and they are professionals in the business of producing soundtracks for us to purchase. It is not unreasonable for us to expect a high and consistent rate of accuracy from them. This is why Quality Control is a thing. If someone makes a mistake, shouldn't there be at least one or two other people waiting to double and triple-check?
LLL has made their share of mistakes. Remember Toothless T-Rex from the Jurassic Park Collection? But they reprinted the booklets and made them available. They have taken those extra steps to correct issues.
Varese, on the other hand, seems to take an opposite approach. It seems as though we're just expected to deal with it, shut up, and "it's just music".
The discussion-turned-heated debate over in the seaQuest/Running Man thread (a conversation in which I participated) is a great example. It started out with the omission of the TV version of the theme (which is on the original release). Then it came out that the first several tracks on Disc 2 are credited to the wrong episode. Then, it came out that all the images were from Season 2 in a Season 1 set.
Most of us were pretty objective in expressing our disappointment and frustration (I think the worst I said was that it seemed like Varese got "lazy" with the release but then said maybe "careless" was a better word), but the "as close to official" responses that we got were heavily skewed toward "hey other labels mess up so give us a break" (I'm paraphrasing here). Since two of the responders were actually involved in the album's production, I took the opportunity to ask some specific questions that could clarify things for us (y'know..."us"...the people buying the albums).
To date, most of those questions have gone unacknowledged, which is disappointing.
I know it's not just Varese. I know Intrada and LLL have gotten their feathers ruffled on here too, and sometimes, yes, it's been triggered by some members getting pretty pissy about things. However, it just seems to be a more frequent occurrence with Varese.
I'm probably going to catch flak from some for this next part, so I want to be clear and up-front that I have the utmost respect for the hard work labels and their teams put into these releases. So many film score dreams have come true for me because of them, and I offer them my sincerest thanks for all their efforts. I also know that the membership of this board is a bit more unique than other online communities in that there's a significant number of industry insiders and professionals are regular posters (MV, Roger, Ford, Mike, etc.), so some stuff can't help but be taken like a personal attack/insult at times. We're all human, and let's be honest--pretty much everyone's nerves are fried at this point.
That being said, not all of us are insiders. I would guess that many of us (maybe even the majority?) are simply film score fans and customers. We have questions. We have personal opinions. We seek to discuss those opinions and questions with each other. Personally, I feel that most of the time we're not insulting, rude, or offensive about it. But lately, it really seems like some of those insiders--especially when they're connected to the album being discussed--can get excessively defensive and, at times, antagonistic. Speaking for myself, that deters me from wanting to openly share my thoughts.
And this is the part where I might get blasted (and I'm going to close on this part too): Sometimes, I think it gets forgotten that we're not only fellow fans but customers as well and, if you're going to speak on behalf of the business or project, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a bit more professionalism. Even if the regular joe members are being trolls, be the more respectful party and stop telling us to get over it, we're not the only ones to make mistakes, this theme has been available on iTunes for 25 years so go download that, etc. (and yeah that last one is about seaQuest). Just calmly tell the person that they're being antagonistic and don't bother engaging with them. If they're really just throwing a tantrum, people will ignore them and move on.
Again, I just want to make it clear that my words are not intended to be disrespectful. They are, however, how I feel about the current trend in responding to members' issues, frustrations, complaints, etc. about albums.
Send me your question. Like many I get super busy and I don't check this board regularly.
bdavis at notefornotemusic dot com.
Thanks. We can talk there. I just don't feel like trying to explain anything on message boards anymore. Anybody else is welcome too.
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Jul 9, 2020 - 8:49 PM
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JGouse0498
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The alternates on disc two are all backwards, reversed. A mess. If you just play and dont check the cue list, no worry. It's just the alternates that are screwed up. The thread for that release surely has the right listing.
I'd pull it but I have this Infinity stones, Mondo, Avengers color bait n switch debacle on my plate now lol....
EDIT: tried to find the thread & drama...but the search engine is expletive....
The alternates on disc two. Nothing matches. Re-listen,Re-check, Re-tag & 'vaya con Dios'
The search feature is why I asked here, hoping someone could just repost the answer. I've intentionally searched for stuff that I've posted and turn up no results, so I don't even bother with it.
I'll have to give it a listen at some point. I looked at the tracks on my computer to refresh my memory, and I actually don't ever listen to the extended album mix tracks. I usually just stop the playlist after the end credits, so it's not really a priority thankfully 
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Well, at least the music for DRACULA 2000 was released (twice). I'm still waiting for Paul Dunlap's CYBORG 2027...
I too would LOVE to se CYBORG released, let's hope it can happen at some point
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So... has anyone got shipping notice yet?
Impatient much?
Also, don't know at which store you ordered it but at the new international it won't ship till August 14th
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So... has anyone got shipping notice yet?
Impatient much?
Also, don't know at which store you ordered it but at the new international it won't ship till August 14th
Received an email today saying it's been/being posted, UK branch.
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Hopefully mine will be hear shortly,post hasn't been yet. This is what it's like when it's your day off- no early mail 
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