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Yes, it can be odd at times, re his synth use and how they upset some people.
No one really complains about them as used in FIRST BLOOD, wherein they somehow perfectly propel the action and the character of John Rambo (before he became a cartoon) along.
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I always thought it weird that so many people are bothered by the synths. To me, they are like any other instrument used, it's like complaining about mandolins or pianos.
Oh man, don't get me started on mandolins and pianos...
Muhahah! 
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I rate Legend as the much-more inspired, better-written score. Lionheart is an excellent score no question, and has a bit more action, thrills and spills (like that awesome jousting cue). But Legend has greater artistry.
Ridley Scott also designed the film so that the score would work in a foreground manner (like "The Dress Waltz" -- composed in preproduction, and the dance later choreographed to when shooting) so Goldsmith was less-encumbered, and able to write more expressively.
So I'd say Lionheart is on the level of Star Trek V -- more action, and an outstanding, inspiring score, better than most others could have done. But Legend is on the level of Star Trek: The Motion Picture -- less action, but with lengthier, better-developed cues, and a masterpiece, even by Goldsmith standards.
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I rate Legend as the much-more inspired, better-written score. Lionheart is an excellent score no question, and has a bit more action, thrills and spills (like that awesome jousting cue). But Legend has greater artistry.
Ridley Scott also designed the film so that the score would work in a foreground manner (like "The Dress Waltz" -- composed in preproduction, and the dance later choreographed to when shooting) so Goldsmith was less-encumbered, and able to write more expressively.
So I'd say Lionheart is on the level of Star Trek V -- more action, and an outstanding, inspiring score, better than most others could have done. But Legend is on the level of Star Trek: The Motion Picture -- less action, but with lengthier, better-developed cues, and a masterpiece, even by Goldsmith standards.
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I could never get into Legend because of the synth farts. I've listened to a few tracks and gave up. Lionheart also has annoying synths. I generally dislike the way Goldsmith uses them with a few exceptions. Pretty much a complete wash for me.
For once we agree. Goldsmith's terrible synth use in the 80s, in particular, is a pet peeve of mine (and I keep ruffling feathers around here every time I mention it). But I like some of the electronic things he did in the 60s and 70s.
Ugh! Graced once again with the same tired, unsubstantiated, "scholarly" remarks, for the 100 000th time (at the very least).
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Oh God, don't even get me started. I believe there is an old thread where we discuss this issue. I'll see if I can find it.
It's easier for those of us following this thread if you post your response here.
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Hank Marvin's looking well.
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I know it’s bad form to complain about the rules of the question but for me Legend is probably better compared to Secret of NIMH and Lionheart to something like First Knight. Those scores and films are more similar in nature and tone. Especially Legend and NIMH which are both heavily Ravel inspired, one is more adult and fed it as synths, the other lighter and is (I think) synth free. However to answer the actual questions I’d go with Legend. I don’t love the synths, mainly because the orchestral writing is so ravishing and beautifully played that they don’t add as much as his synth use elsewhere. Lionheart is still a very fine effort and maybe it would be more striking if it were a bit better played and recorded (although the remaster does help a lot in the latter regard) but somehow i don’t find it as striking as Legend (or First Knight). However the new release has increased my appreciation for it. Guess that shows the level of his skill and talent to decide between such an embarrassment of riches.
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