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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

It is one of my favorite Williams scores, and I can’t wait to hear it remastered and expanded.

The movie is unjustly maligned (the scene in which Dorinda puts on the dress and dances with the guys is magical and funny, her desperate attempt to stop Pete before taking off is heartbreaking, and Pete having to watch Dorinda suffering and falling in love again is haunting). High time for a reappraisal.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

It's good to see the love for this score, that seemed so scarce at the time of its release and beyond.
For many years, I thought that I was one of the few who loved it so much.
It was different and dreamy and the main theme is very long lined and it isn't as immediate as many of his other, more popular scores of the time.
It seems it has grown on many people over the passing years.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I've just dug out my old cassette that had a lot of rare and unreleased (at the time) John Williams music on it.
Stuff like his AMAZING STORIES scores, Amblin logos and the E.T Botanicus Theme.
If it has been properly labelled, the brief, alternate Follow Me track from ALWAYS sounds like, depending on your viewpoint, something from THE WITCHES OF EASTWICK or FAMILY PLOT or INDIANA JONES & THE LAST CRUSADE.
I'll know if it was labelled correctly in a few weeks time (maybe).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   maurizio.caschetto   (Member)

This score features some of JW's most sublime writing for French Horn. Studio legend Jim Thatcher recollected the thrilling yet scaring experience playing that huge horn solo - his first as principal horn for JW - in the interview he did with me and Tim Burden for The Legacy of John Williams last year:

https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2020/10/23/james-thatcher-podcast/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 4:37 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Aye, I remember reading that interview when it was posted back then.
It must have been terrifying, but ultimately thrilling, when he pulled off that long horn solo so perfectly.
What a way to make your entrance to JW!
That must have felt like his 'Maurice Murphy' moment.
James Horner would also get some great horn performances out of Jim Thatcher too.
I saw him perform Horner's Four Horns piece in London some years back.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

The ALWAYS soundtrack was nowhere to be found when the film was released over holiday season 1989. In fact, the first copies made it to my local store some six months later. No idea if there's a story to be told about the delay.


I distinctly remember that also. Though I think it was March, early spring, when the CD was finally released. Very curious delay.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Possibly caused by some rights issues with the songs on the album?

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Possibly caused by some rights issues with the songs on the album?

That's what I suspect.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)

Possibly caused by some rights issues with the songs on the album?

That's what I suspect.


I thought it was because of the Prince album inspired by ALWAYS! razz

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

The ALWAYS soundtrack was nowhere to be found when the film was released over holiday season 1989. In fact, the first copies made it to my local store some six months later. No idea if there's a story to be told about the delay.


I distinctly remember that also. Though I think it was March, early spring, when the CD was finally released. Very curious delay.


A review in Soundtrack! at the time noted its lateness (a common thing for MCA Records at the time apparently...) The reviewer was amazed at how non-thunderous it was...

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)



You know, I always worry that all of my favorite scores are from when I was around 10. But thinking on it, when I was 20/21: In that one year period we got (in no particular order) Always, The Abyss, Back to the Future 2 AND 3, The Hunt for Red October, The Little Mermaid. Batman, Star Trek V, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Field of Dreams... What am I leaving out?


Schedule-wise for score highlights, from the beginning of '89 to the end of '90 into very early '91 we got the following (in chronological order):

Spring '89
the 'Burbs
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Fletch Lives
Leviathan


Summer '89
Field of Dreams
Criminal Law
Road House
IJ & the Last Crusade
Star Trek V The Final Frontier
Ghostbusters II
Batman
Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
Karate Kid III
Lethal Weapon 2
License to Kill
The Abyss
Casualties of War


Fall '89
Black Rain
Dad
Henry V
Back to the Future II
The Little Mermaid
Glory
Driving Miss Daisy
Tango & Cash
Always
Born on the 4th of July


Winter '90
Tremors
Stanley & Iris
Nightbreed


Spring '90
The Hunt for Red October
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


Summer '90
Bird on a Wire
Back to the Future III
Total Recall
Another 48 HRS
Dick Tracy
Gremlins 2
RoboCop 2
Days of Thunder
Die Hard 2
Arachnaphobia
Presumed Innocent
Young Guns II
DuckTales the Movie
Flatliners
The Exorcist III
Darkman
The Witches


Fall '90
Quigley Down Under
Jacob's Ladder
Dances with Wolves
Home Alone
The Rescuers Down Under
Predator 2


Winter '91
Misery
Edward Scissorhands
Kindergarten Cop
The Russia House
Lionheart
Warlock
White Fang
Not Without My Daughter
Flight of the Intruder





That 1-2 year period from early '89 to early '91 was amazing for scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

That's a solid list, db, but remember that many of those films didn't get a simultaneous score release, and there are some that are still awaiting a proper score release to this day!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

1989 - 1991 was an unprecedented explosion of classic film scores. There's a few more to add:

March 1989 Farewell To The King
March 1990 Joe Vs. The Volcano
April 1990 Twin Peaks
October 1990 Shipwrecked
December 1990 The Grifters

Also John Williams and the "Skywalker Symphony" released their album of themes from Star Wars,
we got the digital recording of Anthony Adverse and the first recording ever of The Magnificent Ambersons.

Things look even more spectacular is you include all of 1991.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

A review in Soundtrack! at the time noted its lateness (a common thing for MCA Records at the time apparently...)

That kind of delay was not common. Weeks -- maybe. Months? That was unusual at that point, particularly for such a high profile film and composer.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Possibly caused by some rights issues with the songs on the album?

That's what I suspect.


I thought it was because of the Prince album inspired by ALWAYS! razz


FUNNY!

Ah, I can't believe I left Joe vs. the Volcano off of my list!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

The film has its moments, thanks to John Goodman's performance. As far as Holly Hunter is concerned, big miscast. The love story is awkwardly depicted. Too much sirup...

John Williams score is good, some strong and effective moments : "the old timer's shack", "the rescue operation". The additional music as well as alternate takes will be interesting to listen to.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Affixed to the first LP pressings of the soundtrack was a sticker with the boast that the album contained "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" performed by J.D. Southern and then said in small print that this version of the song was not contained in the film. I've never seen that before or since.

And the version of the song that was included on the CD (not sure about the vinyl), the hit recording by The Platters, is missing the first few seconds of the song - at least on the Canadian CD pressing. To my knowledge, only the Japanese pressing, re-released a few years back, includes the error-free version of this song. (Luckily, I managed to get it on another MCA CD a few years later - AMERICAN GRAFFITI!)

Wondering if the songs will be included here, but either way I'm stoked!

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

As far as Holly Hunter is concerned, big miscast.

You might be the only person I've ever heard this from. Ms. Hunter is downright adorable in this movie.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

As far as Holly Hunter is concerned, big miscast.

You might be the only person I've ever heard this from. Ms. Hunter is downright adorable in this movie.


I think the issue could be that she has to spend so much of the film grieving. Still, I think she's wonderful here. The sleep-shopping scene was great.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

As far as Holly Hunter is concerned, big miscast.

You might be the only person I've ever heard this from. Ms. Hunter is downright adorable in this movie.


Exactly. She is wonderful, playing comedy and tragedy, the little girl inside the tough tomboyish woman who earns all the respect in that man‘s world.

 
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