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The comments are definitely entertaining, as are all the little jokes sprinkled throughout the description and track titles. I find it funny how angrily defensive some of the people are getting whereas others are like "yeah it's fake, but I'll accept the joke." It seems like other composers would be much harder to pull off this kind of trick for. Basically anyone who composes actual orchestral music is already a step ahead in creating a unique style and composers like Goldsmith and Williams have pretty distinctive compositional approaches.
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All the other 1000 orchestral composers? Easy. Just snip any of the Marvel clips and call it something else. Most orchestral scoring are generic as hell. Nowadays for sure - I think basically anyone who started composing after 2010 / the-beginning-of-the-tentpole-franchise-frenzy is unfortunately stuck in having to create the same kind of music. There are still older composers and independent composers but there isn't a lot of variety in mainstream films.
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Considering that a huge percentage of YouTube commenters never bother to watch the videos they comment on... There's also a lot of bots / spammers on social media too. Every big campaign will have them and it's pretty much a given that the actual DUNE has them. But even for this video I'd imagine there are likely are bots programmed to comment on new things that fulfill certain keywords.
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Considering that a huge percentage of YouTube commenters never bother to watch the videos they comment on... Quite possibly true--in general, but not important in this particular instance. What we are talking about here is people who posted on the soundtrack video who listened to the music and DIDN'T read the description. They hailed the music as the Second Coming. According to the description it seems like that's the point too. The comments make me think of the superficial, unexamined enjoyment of pop music by SOME of the people who consume it (not everyone). I guess Hans Zimmer is kind of like pop music in that sense where the type of music he makes is accessible enough to also bring in those superficial people, partly because it resembles popular genres of synth music, ambient music, bass drops, etc. I would think the actual film score appreciators are more thoughtful and wouldn't be blindly posting.
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Considering that a huge percentage of YouTube commenters never bother to watch the videos they comment on... Quite possibly true--in general, but not important in this particular instance. What we are talking about here is people who posted on the soundtrack video who listened to the music and DIDN'T read the description. They hailed the music as the Second Coming. According to the description it seems like that's the point too. The comments make me think of the superficial, unexamined enjoyment of pop music by SOME of the people who consume it (not everyone). I guess Hans Zimmer is kind of like pop music in that sense where the type of music he makes is accessible enough to also bring in those superficial people, partly because it resembles popular genres of synth music, ambient music, bass drops, etc. I would think the actual film score appreciators are more thoughtful and wouldn't be blindly posting. Not sure sure if you are talking about YouTube but film score appreciators on YouTube? On YouTube, Zimmer has been compared to Beethoven, Mozart, "The only composer that gets me emotional," the guy that "Elfman doesn't qualify to share the same table with." I don't think there are a lot of hardcore film score fans there. This is the same group that viewed "Supermarine" on Dunkirk 11 million times, and said WW84 is "generic crap." I am a huge Zimmer fan obviously, and I absolutely believe Zimmer's music is able to capture the emotions of people like no other, but his fan base on YouTube is absolutely ridiculous. Even Zimmer himself would cringe-blush at some of the comments.
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I am a huge Zimmer fan obviously, and I absolutely believe Zimmer's music is able to capture the emotions of people like no other, but his fan base on YouTube is absolutely ridiculous. Even Zimmer himself would cringe-blush at some of the comments. That's kind of what I'm saying, I was just being light about making the point. The popularity of Zimmer is often pointed to as being an indicator of his film score quality but I'd say the vast majority of people who are the big loud fans are vacuous and superficial. My guess is the actually thoughtful fans like yourself and some of the others on this board are probably roughly equivalent in size to the amount of fans of the more classic orchestral composers. It's just that Zimmer's music is relatively adjacent to elements of electronica, rap, pop, etc. so it's less of a musical leap for the giant mass of mainstream fans to call themselves "film soundtrack fans" after listening to some recent Zimmer tracks, in comparison to John Williams. Like, maybe some of those people like the "Star Wars theme" but I don't think those are the same people listening to the intricacies of "The Departure of Boba Fett" from THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK or deciding on the merits of "Yub Nub" vs. "Victory Celebration". For orchestral scores, nothing in popular culture is really like a true orchestral score other than classical music, and I'm pretty sure the kids aren't really listening to that these days, so there's not really a fresh draw there. It's funny because I wonder if these giant fans would enjoy BROKEN ARROW or THE ROCK. Those were just trashy loud melodic fun with some parts that were also anonymous action noise. It would be great to play a track from Interstellar back to back with the frenetic action music of "Hammerhead" from BROKEN ARROW and get reactions.
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