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 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)


Wonder who's scoring?


Hahahahaha! Love the "This time it's serious..." tagline! big grin It has a fairly decent supporting cast though!

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

LOL Spinmeister!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I predict that there will be a whole lot of used copies of Zimmer's Dune in Half Price Books and Goodwill in a few years. not so many Mockingbird, so..

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   BTTFFan   (Member)

P.S. There is a record store in the Fremont neighborhood (Seattle, WA) whose owner has boxes of new/sealed soundtracks. Lots of Broughton, Bernstein, Morricone, etc.

What record store? I must know! I thought all we had in the area was Silver Platters and Sonic Boom.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Wonder who's scoring?

Or film the alternate early novel version published in 2015, "Go Set a Watchman."

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

Love those Jennifer Lawrence films. The Mockingbird score was the best!

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

P.S. There is a record store in the Fremont neighborhood (Seattle, WA) whose owner has boxes of new/sealed soundtracks. Lots of Broughton, Bernstein, Morricone, etc.

What record store? I must know! I thought all we had in the area was Silver Platters and Sonic Boom.


Daybreak Records. You will have to ask the owner to pull out the half dozen boxes packed with cds. Most of his inventory is listed on Discogs. But, he is willing to negotiate (particular when you pull out cash).

For the record, I have rarely found anything at Silver Platters. The real treasures tend to show up at Half Price Books.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   BTTFFan   (Member)

P.S. There is a record store in the Fremont neighborhood (Seattle, WA) whose owner has boxes of new/sealed soundtracks. Lots of Broughton, Bernstein, Morricone, etc.

What record store? I must know! I thought all we had in the area was Silver Platters and Sonic Boom.


Daybreak Records. You will have to ask the owner to pull out the half dozen boxes packed with cds. Most of his inventory is listed on Discogs. But, he is willing to negotiate (particular when you pull out cash).

For the record, I have rarely found anything at Silver Platters. The real treasures tend to show up at Half Price Books.


Thanks, I’ll check it out.

You’re right about HPB. Just last weekend I found the Prometheus release of Farewell to the King. Someone also dumped quite a few LLL superhero titles at the Lynnwood location.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Each new generation baffles the previous one.

Cheers


Favorite epigraph of the week, maybe the month.

Way to go, Mr. Woolston!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Well done, Joan, you're trending!

Almost double the number of posts than that old fart Elmer Bernstein wink

Your 'views' might even usurp that other young fella...64 years old Hans Zimmer!!! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Wow, great responses. I thought this thread would die immediately. I admit that I thought about staying up all night to hit the view button so that this thread could catch up with Zimmer. wink

I admit my old brain didn't remember those threads Mitch resurrected. Those were good topics.

I appreciate the insights of all the responders.

What I really LOVE is the fact that the Old Codgers are refusing to leave. Good. We need to hang in here.

The topic of exploring older movies and scores came up in this thread. Thor clearly summarized that issue.

Ultimately, it comes down to the degree to which one is willing to EXPLORE, or rather openness to various idioms and periods. Some people are content with one particular idiom (orchestral, electronic, whatever), some are content with the scores of their formative years, while others yet again are interested in all kinds of idioms and periods. The first two are more common here than the latter, is my experience.

All I can say is that I DON"T think the, "Ignorance is bliss."

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Almost double the number of posts than that old fart Elmer Bernstein

Your 'views' might even usurp that other young fella...64 years old Hans Zimmer!!!


Very funny, Kev.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

Broadcasting to all fellow codgers....

I only feel old when I move around. To me Zimmer is as interesting as Holkenborg or Balfe. I like them all. Goldsmith is in a separate category as is Rozsa or Bernstein or Goodwin or Barry or Williams. I can't really think of a composer I don't like much. I can see why the youngsters stick with what they know. Looking ahead is easier than looking back. There'll always be a market for "classic" scores, just a diminishing one. I'm always up for a re-recording project even if its not to my taste in the hope that a Friedhofer or an Alfred Newman or George Anthiel is further down the queue. We'll never get to those if I don't support all of them. We're only too old when they are nailing the lid down. Bill Carson... "Proud to be a miserable old bastard"... I'm with you, except I don't feel old or miserable.

Joining in with Uncle Stephen Woolston's Zoom Chats helps keep me feeling young.

I got the score to John Cameron's Kes today. Never seen the film, but I'll either play that tomorrow or Zimmer's No Time To Die or Dune.

For me its never either/or, just both.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   iankemsley   (Member)

It's both for me too. I just love film music - it's dramatic, evocative, emotional, and thematic - and even when it isn't it can be musically challenging and intellectually interesting. I grew up in the 60s in the UK watching old films on b&w tv and then venturing into the cinemas from the late 60s, including seeing reruns of Gone With the Wind. I get as much pleasure from new film music as old, and now I have retired and have both more time and money I can explore more too - Poteyenko on KeV McG's recommendation, Godwin Borg's superb Kronos catalogue, etc etc

There's room for all types of film music, just as there is in any genre, and it's as much fun to go backwards as forwards.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Love those Jennifer Lawrence films. The Mockingbird score was the best!

Was she in that? Must have had her scenes deleted.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

So, is it time for we old codgers (and you know who you are), to saddle up our walkers and wheelchairs and ride off into the sunset?

The only reason the HZ threads get that many hits is that theres an undercurrent of decrepit white men / trolls who have nothing better to do than bump threads by bitching about what they hate instead of what they like.

Difference between looking at the donut, or the hole.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The only reason the HZ threads get that many hits is that theres an undercurrent of decrepit white men / trolls who have nothing better to do than bump threads by bitching about what they hate instead of what they like.
Difference between looking at the donut, or the hole.



Uh-oh.
The 3 Billy Goats Gruff clomped too loudly.
big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Since Lalo Schifrin, Bill Conti and now John Williams have totally or semi-retired, this is the end of our beloved Silver Age composer generation.

And yes, at 50+, we are becoming boomers and has been.
It's not only film music that falled down but also cinema in general, since the franchises have caught all attention, budget and credit.

This forum used to be Jerry Goldsmith Monthly or John Williams Monthly....but slowly becomes Media Ventures Monthly or DC Comics/Marvel Monthly....

You are desperate to experience low response on your TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD Elmer Bernstein thread?
I do experiment the same frustration when I try some discussions about Michael J Lewis, Oliver Nelson or Dominic Frontiere....

The problem is that all these film music masters stop composing decades ago....and get very low interest from younger people who never saw their movie or TV output at the time of their release.

Most of them don't like anything old stuff: cars, architecture, furniture, etc....and this includes films...and their associated scores for what matters here.

I do confess that when I started all that stuff back in 1984, I was not interested in the Golden Age stuff.

A bit later, I did try Miklos Rozsa, Bernard Herrmann and Alex North and loved their stuff, the connection with my period heroes once established.

I was lucky enough to discover Jerry Goldsmith when he was at his absolute peak (1978 -1983)...

There is and never will be anybody of that caliber in the 21th Century...this has become impossible....because the world has changed too much in the last 25 years...and this includes the movie and film music world as well, everything beeing now pre-packed industrial chain (sampling and programming) instead of one-of-a-kind artistry (sketches, orchestrations, counterpoint, harmonics) as it used to be in the Silver Age, mainly 1960 to 1980.

Zimmer did not kill the medium alone, but he set up new standards along computer evolution that has now become a massive trend....what I call sound design.

Zimmer catches all the fire from the nostalgic boomers like me because he is the ultimate ambassador of that new age of film music industrial manufacturing and his NO TIME TO DIE James Bond assignment is the peak of his carreer....

When you compare with peaks of our vintage Silver Age composer heroes, there is no comparison.

So yes, as much as John Williams way of scoring vanishes, as much the Hans Zimmer style becomes the definitive standard.

So, to launch a TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD thread is like an UFO crossing the sky...nobody will even notice it...it's the sad true of nowourdays...and this forum is dying slowly for the Silver Age fan generation....

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

@ Thierry Schreurs

Ouch, that is a lot of truth. Well done.

I have a flicker of hope when I have occasionally punctured the veil for one of my kids with a score. Or when they are with me in my 25 year old Volvo and one of their friends or another young person in public tells me I have a 'cool car.'

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2021 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yes, the "new" factor is very important to consider. When FAR FROM HEAVEN came out it would get a ton more posts than Elmer's older scores. Also if you try to find the number of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD threads over the years you will find that accumulated amount of posts would decimate any newer hotter thread. The big picture is very important.

 
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