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 Posted:   May 25, 2023 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Keith got back to me, he said he based his blog post on some Google searches.

LACC also got back to me and gave me the link to their campus paper archives. Searching Jerrald Goldsmith gets several hits which I will review tomorrow but it may very well have been an ad in this paper that I am going to also look deeper at. Folks here are also welcome to search the archive here:

https://lacitycollege.libguides.com/Collegian

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

June 4, 1948 - This one features "Music Society Offers Awards for Originals.....Nocturne for Piano and Strings by Jerrlad Goldsmith was another entry in Lorraine Eckardt, pianist and others took part."
https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/8956/rec/5

Still reviewing.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

October 19, 1948
"Cubs Take Bow In City College Music Program....Goldsmith, gamma and new strudent mnager of the musicales, won the Epsilon Alpha Gamma ensemble music division award in the composition contest last spring. He also won the over-all contest award."
https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/9015/rec/7

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

November 21, 1949
"Musicale Offers Student Soloists....Goldsmith will present Haydn's 'Sonate No. 1 in E Flat Major,' Chopins's 'Ballade in G Minor', and three of his own compositions, 'Under the Greenwood Tree', 'To Electra' and 'Winter'.....Student director of the Philharmonic Choir, Goldsmith is a member of Epsilon Alpha Gamma, honorary music society. He was musical director and composer for last term's drama production. 'The Darwin Theory' and has been a soloist with the Peter Maeremblum Junior Symphony Orchesta."



https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/9451/rec/8

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

January 16, 1950
"Music Society Holds Composition Contest....'Sonata for Viola and Piano' by Jerry Goldsmith is offerred by Chris Kuzell at the viola and Goldsmith at the piano'.

https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/9516/rec/12

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

June 4, 1948 - This one features "Music Society Offers Awards for Originals.....Nocturne for Piano and Strings by Jerrlad Goldsmith was another entry in Lorraine Eckardt, pianist and others took part."
https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/8956/rec/5


I just came to post that! Great find, this archive, Ryan! But you're getting everything, so I'll step aside and enjoy your archaeology.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

April 19, 1948
"Concert Presents Violinist, Pianist In Dual Pieces.....'Goldsmith's musical experience includes piano solo work, accompanying singers and instumentalists, composing and arranging."

https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/8860/rec/13

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

October 29, 1948
This one had a neat note:
"....asked Jerry Goldsmith sutdent manager of the musical series. Goldsmith's telephone number is AX-1-1714."

https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/9031/rec/17

In case any time travelers need to reach the man circa 1948.

Also seeing him show up as Jerry and mis-spelled Gerald - so there may be more to find in this archive.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

November 5, 1957
"Composer Gives Music Lecture....The techniques of dramatic music in radio, television, and motion pictures will be explained in a lecture today by Jerry Goldsmith, in F.A. 102 at 11am. Goldsmith attended City College from 1947 to 1950 and was a member of Epsilon Gamma, honorary music society. He studied piano with Jacob Gimbel and composition with Neuvo Tedesco. He has just finished working on a picture for Warner Brothers and is now working on music for 'Suspense', 'Climax' Radio Workshop' and 'Playhouse 90'.


https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/12140/rec/22

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

January 7, 1949
"Jerald Goldsmith, one of last years winners, is the composer of the original music accompanying Dick Docter's radio play. "William Snyder' offered on the musical program Tuesday at 11am in Music Hall.

https://lacitycollege.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/LACCNP02/id/9095/rec/87

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

https://www.quartetrecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/1-22-The-Gold-Arrives...-Film-Version.mp3

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Those are the obvious finds - there are many references where Goldsmith is listed as a performer in shows or referring to his role in clubs etc.


I see that this paper has a classifieds section - just trying to think if it's possible and ad was posted for the children's album work - I have a gut feeling it was a word of mouth offer. I just wonder if any of the folks named with Goldsmith are still alive today and might remember him ever mentioning it. Still I think there might be more to mine from this archive. Just have to think about it some more - and I encourage you all to check it out to see if you can spot something I might have missed.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

I wonder if Chris Kuzell is still around?

Scratch that - RIP 1999.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2023 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Wondering now if it may have been the "Peter Maeremblum Junior Symphony Orchestra" - I can see they were doign work as early as 1939 - I wonder if they did any kids albums? I may reach back out to Peter.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Wondering now if it may have been the "Peter Maeremblum Junior Symphony Orchestra" - I can see they were doign work as early as 1939 - I wonder if they did any kids albums? I may reach back out to Peter.

Peter checked and says none of the records for that time period he's aware of were done by this orchestra.

Looked through some more issues from 194801950 just to look at the Classified ad sections. Mostly ads for Rooms for rent, and lots of folks looking for typewriters. Every issue has cigarette ads, even saw a Lucky Strike ad featuring a very young Kirk Douglas.


Were the excerpts I pulled about the compositions by Goldsmith for this time new information for you? I sure didn't' know about them.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Absolutely! I don’t think Jeff was aware of most of them either, so thank you for sharing your exciting finds! I only hope those early student works still exist…

Re: the children’s album… maybe expand the search to 1947 as well, just in case?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2023 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

I don't think there was anything by that orchestra in his database, period.

Every name that seems to be associated w/ Jerry seems to be deceased, so it's hard to try to reach someone that might have known. I posted in the Discogs forums - I could not get anything posted to r/vinyl in reddit - posts kept getting blocked - reddit is very picky which is why I rarely use it.

I'm not giving up yet - just looking on eBay for kid's records of the time if there was an orchestra involved it often stated 'Orchestra conducted by...' - I know discogs is missing tons of stuff - and it's no surprise that it'd be missing kids records. Most record shops don't even put out their kids records stock because no one buys 'em or they sell cheap as they are usually the types of albums that got a lot of play/abuse over the years.

I imagine spending some time digging in kids 78 RPM records for those years in record store might yield an answer - or occasionally checking ebay on a regular for album images.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2023 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/1013217

There's the discussion threat I started - doubt it will get much attention. But it's only been less than 24 hours - I pinged the author of the Vinyl Detective series on Twitter too just as they write a whole series about finding rare records. Sometimes those that write, write about what they know so maybe they know someone in real life that might be able to offer some insight.

https://twitter.com/8ryanpaquet8/status/1663273652912046106

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2023 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Ryan, I want to include this info in the book and give you a shoutout so is Ryan Paquet your actual name or how you would prefer to be cited?

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2023 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Wow Jeff I am honored. Yep that’s my real name!


Vinyl Detective series author Andrew Cartmel answered my tweet and agreed it was indeed a cool mystery!
https://twitter.com/andrewcartmel/status/1664554706046164992?s=46&t=8QXSxwdr43n93cLZBy0WAQ

 
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