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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

What does the defect look like?

When you hold the iridescent lower surface of the disc up to the light, there is a sort of "wavy blob" arc emanating from the inner ring, almost like a spreading stain.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Is anyone else having crackle/noise in the film version of The Meet (Film Version) ?

Just listening to it, no, I don't. Do you have a specific spot, or is it throughout for you?


Right at the beginning.


Thanks, jwb1. I triple-checked, and no, I don't hear it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

What does the defect look like?

This one looks normal.

Graham


I think it might be a bad disc. Looked at the back of the disc and there is definitely something that should not be there.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

What does the defect look like?

When you hold the iridescent lower surface of the disc up to the light, there is a sort of "wavy blob" arc emanating from the inner ring, almost like a spreading stain.


I can see that on mine, John. I'm not having the playing issues others have, but I do see that. Thanks for the specificity.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

What does the defect look like?

When you hold the iridescent lower surface of the disc up to the light, there is a sort of "wavy blob" arc emanating from the inner ring, almost like a spreading stain.


Yep, it's there.

Seems like an impossible photo to grab.

Thanks.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

What does the defect look like?

When you hold the iridescent lower surface of the disc up to the light, there is a sort of "wavy blob" arc emanating from the inner ring, almost like a spreading stain.


This is exactly what I see. And now having listened to more of the disc, there are multiple tracks that are totally broken. Looks like there is a bad batch of discs out there folks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Good news - had no problem with MOUSE HUNT.

Graham

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

Seems like an impossible photo to grab.

Tricky, but not impossible. I placed the disc under a lamp and tried tilting it at various angles relative to my phone's camera until I got a shot.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   ChuckNoland   (Member)

I know the defect is taking center stage currently, but to those of you who gave the music a listen - how was it as a listening exoperience? In others words, "How was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I know the defect is taking center stage currently, but to those of you who gave the music a listen - how was it as a listening exoperience? In others words, "How was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

Haha! You're new here Chuck, so the way this works is....
You won't get an answer. Unless you fret over defects or shipping notices.
Once that's sorted....good luck! One hand count who will care or respond.

We focus on the important things here, mate! Shipping tracking and any defects. Get with it man!

(The above is total sarcasm...welcome Chuck, and good luck. I also hope to hear how this album is, beyond the bitchery we all Love so much!)

-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 9:18 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Defects tend to meddle with the listening experience.

IMHO

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Defects tend to meddle with the listening experience.

IMHO

Graham


Indeed & true.

You know how it goes here though Graham.

Forest for the glitches. Incredibly dull to even plow through.

Grateful to know there's yet another problem.
Disheartened this is all this thread will be now, sans talk of the listening experience.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

I know the defect is taking center stage currently, but to those of you who gave the music a listen - how was it as a listening exoperience? In others words, "How was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

Chuck, it's a really nice album. This is the kind of music that lends itself well to the repetitions coming from alternates and album tracks, as it's a real Repeat-All sort of score. I used to leave the original playing in my office all day. I was in and out, but occasionally sat long enough for more than a full cycle, and never minded. It's a political intrigue picture, as was L.A. Confidential, but here there is real warmth between the two leads, all the way through, and both of those qualities pervade the score; it's thoughtful and warm.

I don't know how the work was divided between Mike and Neil, of course, but after Caboblanco, my antennae are up when Neil is involved. That was - well, it's a great score, Caboblanco, and it has nice source music, too, but it is also just a great album. The way it's arranged, score first, then a well organized set of source tracks, both very different sorts of musical styles, that's also a play all the way through disc, a really superb one, due to his arrangement choices. Then look at Mike's Sabrina, that disc two. I mean, these two releases are just real pleasures. So we all know these guys as great restorers, but they're also pretty great 'album producers'.

So here, I mean it's three things, the film score, the original CD (not just to fill out the corners), and some alternates. I guess you could say it arranges itself, but you might also expect the alternates to come last. They don't always, but on a single disc, they often do. Not so, here, and that really works. A few of them are basically wholly new cues. Others are different enough that the ears won't hear mere repetition (only one would probably count as that). Then when the original album starts back up, we've had space from the film arrangement, and it has its own alternates, plus three tracks that expand on the film versions. So it's basically ... I guess almost only as as repetitious as any score with themes developed throughout.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I know the defect is taking center stage currently, but to those of you who gave the music a listen - how was it as a listening exoperience? In others words, "How was the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

For me ( and my copy plays fine, so far )it's a solid listening experience. It's a score that always clicked with me, and the extra tracks don't turn it into a new score, etc., but together with the alternate tracks it's quite nice.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

A Varese / Goldsmith release with some kind of cock up? Who'd have imagined it...

The Haunting... wrong track listing...
Lionheart... wrong composer credit on the spine...
Along Came a Spider... "wrong" mix in the main title, with electronics lost...
Love Field... also "wrong" (certainly different) mix in the main title...

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't know how the work was divided between Mike and Neil

The credits in the booklet read:
"The Deluxe Edition Produced by Mike Matessino and Neil S. Bulk
...
Deluxe Edition Assembly: Neil S. Bulk
Deluxe Edition Mastered by Mike Matessino"

And agreed -- usually when you see one or both of their names on a project, it's pretty much an assurance of quality and that things were done correctly on the production side of things. Same goes for other folks like Chris Malone, of course. While there does seem to be a little bit of a curse around Varese Goldsmith expansions these past few years (the LIONHEART composed by LIONHEART one was just funny to me, and they thankfully did fix it), it seems clear that this time it has something to do with the manufacturing/pressing plant. And it seems to affect some discs and not other discs, so it's understandable that it could be missed until people started receiving their copies. Here's hoping Concord (Varese's corporate owners now) is able to rectify it for folks. I won't be getting my own copy until later this week, and I'm kinda dreading finding the defect (even if it ends up being mainly superficial/cosmetic).

---

Here's something interesting that surprised me about this new release... for many years I had thought an expansion of Goldsmith's City Hall would have to be licensed through Sony Pictures. After all, as IMDb or Wikipedia says, it was distributed by Sony Pictures and the Columbia Pictures subsidiary was one of the production companies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Hall_(1996_film)

But the OTHER production company on the film, Castle Rock, seems to take precedence in terms of US soundtrack album rights for whatever reason...because the back of the booklet insert for City Hall: The Deluxe Edition says "© Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc." multiple times!

So this is actually Varese Sarabande's NINTH Warner Bros.-licensed expansion since 2020 (the others are U.S. Marshals, Wild Wild West by Bernstein & Bernstein, Looney Tunes: Back in Action, The Matrix by Davis, Elf by Debney, The Iron Giant by Kamen, Presumed Innocent by Williams, and L.A. Confidential), when new Warner Bros.-licensed expansions from the other specialty labels basically dried up. So ironic that Varese Sarabande perpetuity agreements seem to be preventing us from getting expansions of many titles... but when it comes to Warner Bros. it seems like they are a saving grace which are allowing expansions to keep coming out for that studio's holdings, when other labels can't seem to get any traction licensing from WB since the pandemic began almost three and a half years ago!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I had little experience with this one outside of "The Meet" which I really liked the tympani playing.

Finally got a chance to sit down with the OST on youtube and I'm loving jazzy vibe--definitely a welcome rarity in the Goldsmith vocabulary. I was on the fence about the Deluxe but I think I shall have it now, as long as the defective CD issue is rectified. Has anyone with defective discs had any luck getting replacements ordered?

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

Has anyone with defective discs had any luck getting replacements ordered?

Not so far. Concord Music refunded my order and told me, "Unfortunately, we no longer have that item in stock to send a replacement." This seems untrue, since the disc is still available for sale on Varese's website. I have requested clarification. I suppose I can always put my refund towards a new order and just hope that I get a good one this time. And if the next one is also defective, just rinse and repeat until I get a playable disc? This would not seem to address the wider problem.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   MichaelM   (Member)

My disc has that same visible "blob" but my lossless FLAC rip plays without any problems. Haven't played the CD itself.

Very nice score, and the brief additional cues add some variety to the original album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Has anyone with defective discs had any luck getting replacements ordered?

Not so far. Concord Music refunded my order and told me, "Unfortunately, we no longer have that item in stock to send a replacement." This seems untrue, since the disc is still available for sale on Varese's website. I have requested clarification. I suppose I can always put my refund towards a new order and just hope that I get a good one this time. And if the next one is also defective, just rinse and repeat until I get a playable disc? This would not seem to address the wider problem.


In my case they asked me to send a photo and sample of the audio defects. I have not heard anything back since.

They are totally lying if they are saying they cannot send a new disc. Wow, Varese customer service has gone downhill BIG TIME.

 
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