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Jun 17, 2024 - 6:53 PM
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GoblinScore
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Just to create some robust discussion…
The more “expansions” I listen to these days, the more I conclude that original Varese cds at their 30-40 minute lengths, really presented the best of the score. Anyone else share this opinion?
I’m in NO WAY against expansions, particularly when the originals didn’t include score from the last reels because of time constraints etc…I just seem to go back to those original, shorter programs. Probably in the minority…interested in others thoughts!
Nope, not alone. For the most part I completely agree. The odd cue here or there is rescued in an expansion, and I'm glad to have, but am happier (in MOST cases) the album program is included, for numerous reasons, as well as finding I often go back to the shorter version first (today, in fact, I had a 30min. drive and opted for most of the excellent LLL album program *Thank You!!!* instead of playing part of the complete score, and hoping to revisit later....)
I still can't fathom, as part of that generation, how we cried out or cried fowl over so many short releases.....and how (myself at least), landed in the space of often replaying the album program over the expansion.
Always exceptions, but I'm with you Andrew.
In lieu of endless top 5 lists, maybe an Expansion Vs. Album Program would be a fun thing for the community to try out? See where and why people fall where they do?
Cheers,
Sean
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My initial thought was these names:
John Barry
Elmer Bernstein
Georges Delerue
Jerry Goldsmith
Maurice Jarre
Ennio Morricone
John Williams
Absolutely along the lines I was thinking, but I think Varese has already expanded all the Williams they control, and I think the only Barry remaining might be his unused score for Year of the Comet (which would be AMAZING to get!)
I'd have to double check on Jarre and Morricone.
Yavar
For Barry there's also "Mercury Rising". Not the best Barry score but if they would also include the Burwell replacement cues, it could be a quite interesting release.
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Just to create some robust discussion…
The more “expansions” I listen to these days, the more I conclude that original Varese cds at their 30-40 minute lengths, really presented the best of the score. Anyone else share this opinion?
I’m in NO WAY against expansions, particularly when the originals didn’t include score from the last reels because of time constraints etc…I just seem to go back to those original, shorter programs. Probably in the minority…interested in others thoughts!
The art of creating a compelling soundtrack album seems to be lost these days and I have fond memories of these old 30 minute Varese albums.
I think some of them were really an excellent listening experience: Aliens, Basic Instinct. Total Recall. Carlito's Way, Executive Decision, The Dark Half to name a few. I still listen to these quite often. And even with something like Air Force One, Terminal Velocity or Starship Troopers that missed tons of highlights, the original album gave you a great sample of the score.
But others could be very frustrating (looking at you Dreamcatcher).
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There's quite a lot of Barry which COULD be done, but having said that, I'm not guessing that Varese will do a Barry.
But, as a sampler of what I assume to be technically possible:
The Wrong Box could be re-done as a 2CD set, with the stereo LP transfer on disc one and then the complete mono score on disc 2. (Intrada opted to only present additional music from the mono tape.)
The Lion In Winter is begging for a remaster. The original Varese CD was hissy, and the Sony disc was less hissy but seemed a bit compressed as a consequence. (90s noise reduction tech.)
My Sister's Keeper a.k.a. A Killing Affair is begging for a release.
Night Games could be done complete. The tapes exist, and were offered to Silva Screen back in 1992 but they elected to only release highlights, presumably to keep the Game of Death / Night Games disc to one disc.
As Yavar said, the unused score for Year of the Comet is technically possible, albeit probably wouldn't get approved.
The unused score for Goodbye Lover is begging for a release.
And then there's plenty that could be expanded, such as Mercury Rising.
The Specialist is unfortunately locked as it's a Warner title.
Touched By Love would be a good release if it can be done, albeit a bit niche and probably not a big seller. Good score though.
Then there's Willa, Svengali, The Bunker,...
There's stuff that could be done, more than people might think.
But, I say again, I'm not expecting anything from Varese to be a Barry title. I'm just adding to an earlier comment.
Cheers
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