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 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)



We, as a group, do not proselytize. I've never known anyone who did, and I doubt most of us would ever want to actively recruit people to become film music fans, especially given the silliness we've all faced when we've explained why that rack of 2,000 CDs is ALL soundtracks.

The stares -- blank and disbelieving -- are priceless.



Ron, I live for those moments. wink

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)



We, as a group, do not proselytize. I've never known anyone who did, and I doubt most of us would ever want to actively recruit people to become film music fans, especially given the silliness we've all faced when we've explained why that rack of 2,000 CDs is ALL soundtracks.

The stares -- blank and disbelieving -- are priceless.



Ron, I live for those moments. wink

Greg Espinoza


Me, too! big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

...Because they don't want to?

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Southall   (Member)

Okay, well Southall asked this question in that thread:

Where's tomorrow's Jerry Fielding fan going to come from? You can't buy any of his music - again - it all comes and goes within twelve hours.

And this looks like the answer to me:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=52722&forumID=1&archive=0

Of course there are people (like me) who would much rather have the Intrada CDs, but it's not like the scores have vanished from the face of the earth.


Great news that they're available. I would also always rather have a CD than a download, but beggars can't be choosers.

The point I was trying to make on the other board is that if I was just getting into this thing now then I'd quickly give up again. I don't think anyone's suggesting what Ron seems to think they're suggesting, that people are sitting seething with resentment and will in future refrain from buying something they actually want as a way of spiting the label; but of course I can't speak for everyone else. What I would worry about would be that we are just being turned into an even more exclusive little group by what's happening at the moment, because the younger folks at the start of their journey are never going to take the kind of chances on older scores that someone like me was able to take 10-15 years ago - you can't read a review of a CD, think how great it sounds, save up for it and then buy it any more - you either buy it instantly at the point of release, or you never get it.

Some day the feeding frenzy will end (I don't know how many of the 1,200 purchasers of Invaders from Mars have even taken it out of the shrinkwrap, but most of them will be in for a nasty shock if it ever gets as far as their CD player) and in the current economic climate, I assume that CDs will become something that people will stop buying so readily. It's magnificent for Intrada and Varese, who have survived against the odds for so long, that they have stumbled upon this wonderful model which allows them to reap the kind of instantaneous rewards from releasing CDs which were never available before, and which they presumably could never have dreamed of - and it's wonderful for all of us who have (albeit very briefly) the opportunity to buy these albums, and I'm lucky that there's only been one of them (Inchon) that I've missed out on owing to being too slow to purchase - and I wish these labels all the continuing success that their tireless efforts deserve. I just feel sorry for the person who is a 10-years-younger version of me who is never going to get to join this little community of ours.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   ScoreDude   (Member)

I'm glad that both and James and Ron took the time to share their insightful thoughts about this situation. Ron and I are likely close to the same age in that my first soundtrack was Peter Gunn in 1959. My real interest in music (classical, soundtrack, and big band) started with a young people concert. The famous conductor Antal Dorati took the time to sit with us and explain. I became interested in music, joined the band in 7th grade, and played thru 4 years of college. My interest has never stopped. I remember cutting grass, raking leaves, snow shoveling, and other chores to earn enough money to have my Dad take me to the record store to buy an album. Perhaps I'm way too sentimental at this time of my life but somehow some of that has gone away.

I don't fault Intrada or FSM at all. I just wish it were different. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend Invaders to a new person but I might suggest Scorpio to introduce someone to Fielding as it offers both sides of the man.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

I, and I am sure others, will gladly make you a CD-R copy of any sold-out limited edition for nothing, zero, nada. You can have the music and you can stop funding these guys so they will move on to someone else's hobby.

The offer is very nice, but illegal. You and others might want to refrain from putting such offers on bulletin boards instead of in private emails, in case someone from a label decides to go after small fish. They have been known to go after eBay sellers of bootlegs, though I haven't heard of it happening here (yet).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Tonto   (Member)

I think they are a wholesaler of their non limited editions. Why would they take less profit on theit limited editions if they can sell them out on their own? Plus it draws folks to their store which sells other labels as well. Another point is when you let others sell your products you have no control over how they will be promoted plus you may have to take back unsold items. Why do you think so many companies go direct. They have their own message board and I honestly think they enjoy interacting with their customers. Its not all about squeezing the last dollar out of everything.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   Rexor   (Member)

You don't get up at 4AM to get to the store and get a dozen eggs because they'll be sold out by 4:30AM. Don't you get more so that all can have some?


No, I get to the store at 3AM. I wait in the line for 6 hours. Then I buy as many eggs as can (hope there's no limit). Then, I admire the scalpers who sell of the eggs like it's a sold out JW concert ticket. big grin

-Rex

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

You don't get up at 4AM to get to the store and get a dozen eggs because they'll be sold out by 4:30AM. Don't you get more so that all can have some?


No, I get to the store at 3AM. I wait in the line for 6 hours. Then I buy as many eggs as can (hope there's no limit). Then, I admire the scalpers who sell of the eggs like it's a sold out JW concert ticket. big grin

-Rex


Bud, I like the way you think. big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   MWRuger   (Member)


The offer is very nice, but illegal. You and others might want to refrain from putting such offers on bulletin boards instead of in private emails, in case someone from a label decides to go after small fish. They have been known to go after eBay sellers of bootlegs, though I haven't heard of it happening here (yet).


I'll take my chances. I am only offering OOP scores, not hurting any legit interests. If the label is sold out, I can't hurt them and the even the unions already got paid.

Also, I want to encourage others to do the same.

All I'm doing is reducing the demand for scalpers and speculators. I gleefully hope they lose a ton of money.

My email is in my profile.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)


The offer is very nice, but illegal. You and others might want to refrain from putting such offers on bulletin boards instead of in private emails, in case someone from a label decides to go after small fish. They have been known to go after eBay sellers of bootlegs, though I haven't heard of it happening here (yet).


I'll take my chances. I am only offering OOP scores, not hurting any legit interests. If the label is sold out, I can't hurt them and the even the unions already got paid.

Also, I want to encourage others to do the same.

All I'm doing is reducing the demand for scalpers and speculators. I gleefully hope they lose a ton of money.

My email is in my profile.


The FBI might look a tad askew at it....

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   MWRuger   (Member)

Why, you thinking of dropping a dime on me?

Seriously though, it's doubtful. The FBI is busy with the war on terror.

Besides, they don't do anything about P2P, usenet, limewire, ICQ or private FTP sites that are certainly more of a threat to the labels and studios than my offer.


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

"All I'm doing is reducing the demand for scalpers and speculators. I gleefully hope they lose a ton of money."

I like the way you think MWRuger!



 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Well, it's your life....

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2008 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   darklordsauron   (Member)

Well, it's your life....

It's hard for me to tell if you're serious.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2008 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   MWRuger   (Member)

Well, it's your life....

True.

This is a decision I can live with. We all do what we think is right and that may not be the same as legal. There are plenty of things and activities that are legal and are just plain wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2008 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

This whole idea of buying up limited editions so you can profit off your fellow soundtrack fans...
Bring me a bucket.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2008 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   darklordsauron   (Member)

Well, it's your life....

True.

This is a decision I can live with. We all do what we think is right and that may not be the same as legal. There are plenty of things and activities that are legal and are just plain wrong.


I don't see how it's even a big decision. People used to make mixtapes of mainstream music, and now some people on this board are worried about copying sold out cds for people? The FBI has much, much, much bigger fish to fry. This is a non-issue.

 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2008 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   MWRuger   (Member)

It's not a big decision to some (me included) but it obviously is for others.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 22, 2008 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

It's not a big decision to some (me included) but it obviously is for others.

Who are these "others" you speak of?

 
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