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 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Geoffers   (Member)

Yeah, the stereo cues do sound great. I was surprised to see comments in the notes about the recording venue! The sound definitely is different than the CTS Bayswater studio.


I'm very much enjoying this, too, not least because I'm really only familiar with the main theme. One or two of the mono tracks sounded slightly distorted, though as no one else has said anything it must be a problem with my player - maybe the overall length of the CD.

I was also surprised about the CTS studio comments, not about the different sound, but that John Richards said it was the first Barry score recorded at Wembley. I always assumed Alice's Adventures was recorded there, and what about The Tamarind Seed, The Dove & The Man with the Golden Gun?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Odd comment for sure. I thought that CTS Bayswater closed in 1972 and CTS moved to Wembley. If Richards' comment is correct where were Barry's UK scores post 72 recorded?.

However we're talking a long time ago. Memory sometimes plays tricks.

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Geoff wrote:I was also surprised about the CTS studio comments, not about the different sound, but that John Richards said it was the first Barry score recorded at Wembley. I always assumed Alice's Adventures was recorded there, and what about The Tamarind Seed, The Dove & The Man with the Golden Gun?

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Though I was very familiar with what I heard on the film (much of it drowned by sound effects), this is of course the first time we've been able to hear this clearly and away from from the film.

Hearing it that way is a revelation. It surprised me how close it is to Enigma, composed so many years later.

Of the stereo tracks, I think someone else mentioned this, but I was disappointed to hear that "Direct Hit" seems damaged. But given the age of the recording, I think we've come off well overall.

It's great to hear some 1979 Barry music for the first time ever - i.e. the unused cues.

I'm curious about the comment there's no paperwork for the re-scored cues.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Barryphile   (Member)

Interesting that Mr. Barry revised cues for this film since he withdrew or was let go from so many films because of his refusal to revise his music. Any one know when he decided to no longer revise his music and why? Also, since iTunes released "The Black Hole" a few years back, we're unlikely to get a cd release, no?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Ellington   (Member)

I don't think Barry was opposed to revising cues for its own sake, I think he just wouldn't do it when it came from (in his view) a complete misunderstanding by the person asking him to do it or a difference in how he viewed the film. I can easily imagine that if a cut was changed or something, he would have been willing to change a cue accordingly.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Ellington   (Member)

Geoffers - I have the same effect on some of the mono tracks, and I don't think it is my CD player. Some of them sound as though they're ever so slightly slow to me. Like an old cassette player where the pinch roller needed cleaning. It's very minor though, and by and large, I think this is an excellent job on mastering.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2009 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

It surprised me how close it is to Enigma, composed so many years later.


Strangely, I didnt hear so much of Enigma in this. Ive been listening to 'Mike's Murder' quite a lot recently, and I find it sounds much closer!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2009 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Even stranger, I can't find the Enigma or Mike's Murder connection with Hanover Street. They are all very different despite the occasional similarities (due solely to the orchestration and certain harmonic ideas, but this is inevitable with any composer).

Alex

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2010 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Hanover Street now gone-ski from everywhere except Intrada and Colosseum...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2010 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Geoffers - I have the same effect on some of the mono tracks, and I don't think it is my CD player. Some of them sound as though they're ever so slightly slow to me. Like an old cassette player where the pinch roller needed cleaning. It's very minor though, and by and large, I think this is an excellent job on mastering.

THOSE mono tracks was taken from the actual film-cellouoid or something like that - i read somewhere that they cound not find the recorded alternate film version and therefor took it from the film-stem or what you call it

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Hanover Street is available again at Moviemusic.

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/hanoverst

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2010 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

and also BLACK STALLION RETURNS

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/blackstallionreturns


INNERSPACE

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/innerspace-score


JAWS 3

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/jaws3d


PREDATOR

http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/predator-rmst



EDIT Ahhh forget the links - Not in Stock

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

For anyone interested in UK, talking pictures is screening Hanover Street tomorrow (sunday) at 4.25pm

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Thanks Bill, I'll record that. I think someone who works for that channel is a Barry fan, they have showed lots of films he scored.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

OK, late to the party. Is this any good? The movie seemed tailor made for me from cast to subject to setting. And I hated it.

But I don't remember the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

OK, late to the party. Is this any good? The movie seemed tailor made for me from cast to subject to setting. And I hated it.

But I don't remember the score.


As with many Barry scores the main theme is gorgeous but listening to the entire score can be tiring. Because once you heard the main theme you basically heard everything. And after hearing it over and over again you kind of get bored by it. At least that was my experience with this score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

OK, late to the party. Is this any good? The movie seemed tailor made for me from cast to subject to setting. And I hated it.

But I don't remember the score.


As with many Barry scores the main theme is gorgeous but listening to the entire score can be tiring. Because once you heard the main theme you basically heard everything. And after hearing it over and over again you kind of get bored by it. At least that was my experience with this score.


Sorry, but I must disagree.

There's very little repetition in this score at all. The main title theme actually doesn't show up that much in the body of the score and when it does it's generally just a short quotation in a different orchestration.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


As with many Barry scores the main theme is gorgeous but listening to the entire score can be tiring. Because once you heard the main theme you basically heard everything.


Exactly. This would have made for an ideal 30-minute Varese CD back in the day, but at an hour+, it's numbingly repetitive.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)


As with many Barry scores the main theme is gorgeous but listening to the entire score can be tiring. Because once you heard the main theme you basically heard everything.


Exactly. This would have made for an ideal 30-minute Varese CD back in the day, but at an hour+, it's numbingly repetitive.


I don't know what you're listening to.

There's hadly any repetition in the score at all.

Bizarre.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

How does it compare to his score version for another romantic fixture, The Appointment?

 
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