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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Upcoming FSM TV CDs—Plan Your $$ by Lukas Kendall
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   nxbusby   (Member)

Very very good news! Just think...we get both Star Trek AND The X Files in the same year!! This year has been amazing. How can the labels as a collective (no pun intended) even begin to surpass this year ever again.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Don't listen to the haters Lukas. No one thinks that you guys didn't do everything you could to include BOBW; They are just bemoaning the fact that lawyers got involved and prevented the release from being complete. Stupid lawyers.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

They are just bemoaning the fact that lawyers got involved and prevented the release from being complete. Stupid lawyers.

This isn't about lawyers. GNP Crescendo clearly has all rights to this music, possibly in perpetuity or at the very least for more than the 19 years that have passed since they first issued this CD. There's nothing improper with what they've done. They bought these rights (and nobody else was doing it in 1991), they took the risk, this is what they got in return. And as far as I can tell, they're still selling the CD. It continues to be an earner for them.

Were lawyers involved? When the original contract was signed, I'm certain there were lawyers. So what? Did lawyers somehow intervene here to prevent the score's inclusion into this set? I have no idea, but if the contract was clear, and no agreement could be reached with GNP, they shouldn't have had to.

So no hating on the lawyers!

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Lukas, It's really great that you posted this info since it can be hard to budget out purchases if a bunch of good stuff comes out at the same time, especially when there are some more expensive sets involved. I applaud you for "sticking your neck out" in doing so. Looks like you're being whacked a bit because of it though I'm sorry to say. Hopefully there will be no decapitation!

And of course there is still an air of mystery about what's included in the TV Omnibus: Volume One set which is the one thing from this batch I'm interested in. So I still get to have the anticipation of discovery while being able to pro-actively budget for its purchase!

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I understand that GNP Crescendo has the perpetual, never ending rights to BOBW; But they could have cooperated with FSM and allowed them to include BOBW in the box while getting a fair share of the profits if they had wanted to, I'd imagine

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

As they say in the EC Comics... GOOD LORD *CHOKE*

LOL! I recall DC Comics' horror books doing same in the '70s (House of Mystery, Unexpected, etc)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   jonnyquest   (Member)

Lukas,

The many reasons why you don't play your hand are entirely understandable - but what a massive treat for the fans when you do!

Not only does it indeed help us 'plan our $$', but for my money, it's a treat to see the rumour mill quashed for (at least) a moment. And it's an even bigger treat to have so many wonderful things to look forward to. As in life, sometimes a great surprise is best savored when it's jumps out to delight you, but sometimes the pleasure is in knowing it's coming...and reveling in the countdown.

Thanks as always for the treasure...past, present and yet to come!

Peace

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I understand that GNP Crescendo has the perpetual, never ending rights to BOBW; But they could have cooperated with FSM and allowed them to include BOBW in the box while getting a fair share of the profits if they had wanted to, I'd imagine

And that didn't happen, so let's just stick with reality instead of "what if's" and rejoice in the immensity of what will be available on this box set.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Yea I wasn't complaining and again completely agree that Lukas did everything he could to get it included but was denied by GNP. Oh well!

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

thanks for announcing these titles in advance - it mos def helps planning purchases.

I did not know that ST:TNG was such a hot item. I have never heard the music
wowow!
bruce

ps why didn't he do the feature films?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   CLaFong99   (Member)

And for that matter we have a couple of other TV soundtrack LPs making their CD debuts.


I always hoped you could release the original WB LP of "I Spy" by Earl Hagen.
It's one of my favorite LP's from the sixties.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

Memory Alpha has a very nice article on Mr. Jones plus a complete episode list (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ron_Jones):

* "The Naked Now"
* "Where No One Has Gone Before"
* "Lonely Among Us"
* "The Battle"
* "Datalore"
* "11001001"
* "When The Bough Breaks"
* "Heart of Glory"
* "Skin of Evil"
* "We'll Always Have Paris"
* "The Neutral Zone"
* "Where Silence Has Lease"
* "The Outrageous Okona"
* "Loud As A Whisper"
* "A Matter Of Honor"
* "The Royale"
* "The Icarus Factor"
* "Q Who"
* "Up The Long Ladder"
* "The Emissary"
* "Shades of Gray"
* "Evolution"
* "Who Watches The Watchers"
* "Booby Trap"
* "The Price"
* "The Defector"
* "The High Ground"
* "A Matter of Perspective"
* "The Offspring"
* "Allegiance"
* "Ménage à Troi"
* "The Best of Both Worlds" Parts I & II
* "Brothers"
* "Reunion"
* "Final Mission"
* "Data's Day"
* "Devil's Due"
* "First Contact"
* "Night Terrors"
* "The Nth Degree"
* "The Drumhead"

Needless to say, the prospect of all that unreleased music is mouthwatering! And Amazon has copies of the existing disc for as little as $1.22 (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Generation-Television-Soundtrack/dp/B000001P0Y/).

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   CrazyQuark   (Member)

Regarding the TNG-Boxset, I'm totally excited that Starfleet Academy and especially Starfleet Command are included there. To be honest I was hoping this would be the case. This is really a dream come true. I can hardly wait! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   valkyrie312   (Member)

Wow! Was ST:TNG really 20 years ago? When did I get old?

Lukas - Thanks for going after these great scores! I'm sure that it was quite and undertaking to put this together. I'm definitely going to get this set!

Just a question: Will you be offering autographed copies of this set? I'm going to get it regardless, but I am definitely interested in getting Ron Jones' autograph in this set (if possible).

Thanks again for all your hard work!

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2010 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Mr. Kendall,

even if you may dont feel good about anouncing titles wich you will (or want) release in the future: I think, the most guys like me are happy to hear, what will come in the next month and what we have our money to spent for (as you have suggested).

Honestly, all the "clue-stuff" from most of the labels becomes a little bid absurd (specially, when you read the strangest speculations in some of the forums).
I like to know, what I can expected in the near future from the labels (LALA-Records did this very well for some time, anouncing theire future projects), so I REALLY can plan and hold my money for the stuff I like (and I like a lot of genres....).

I can understand your point, because it is terrible, to get thousand e-mails asking you:" When exactly will this cd released?Why isnt it complete? Can I pre-order it? Why you didnt release it earlier?Why that title first, the better one last" ect, ect.
And if some projects will released not at the anounced time but a little bid later (like the upcoming X-FILES box), I assume, such terrible mails would be increased.

But all in all its truly better if the labels make clear theire plans for the upcoming month, and if someone like to complain or ask something about, he can use such forums like this.
And if there is some critic about some releases: I think, you can bear it.
To 90%, the coments about the TNG-Box (for example), are positive. And if there are some complains , than its the "salt in the soup" if you know, what I mean.
And sometimes also the critics are correct!

Anyway: Many thanks for the anouncing.
Go on with those "long time" anouncments in the future!
I (and many others) will defenetly spent my money!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

THE TV OMNIBUS VOLUME 1 SPECULATION BLOG

Hello, this is my blog regarding the upcoming "Omnibus" thing from FSM. I know it's not really a "blog", but I don't usually do "speculations" either, so this is completely not me -

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think FSM has released TV scores from MGM before, right? Were CAIN'S HUNDRED, the U.N.C.L.E. releases, JERICHO, HAWKINS, DR KILDARE etc from MGM?

If so (and even if not) I don't think we can expect anything near the high-profile level of those releases. Lukas said as much in his introduction. These things will be pretty much unknown to most people I imagine, although the composers will be familiar (Lukas mentioned Grusin, Schifrin, Duning, Goldenberg...) So, what I THINK we might be getting COULD be tracks from something like...

ASSIGNMENT VIENNA (unfamous 1972 TV series with scores by Grusin and John Parker)
THEN CAME BRONSON (not very well known TV series from '69/'70 with scores by George Duning and Gil Mellé)
EXECUTIVE SUITE (forgotten mini-series from 1977 with scores by Billy Goldenberg and Gil Mellé)

I know there'll be some Schifrin in there, but I would be very surprised if it were something as "famous" as EARTH II or MEDICAL CENTER. And IF there's any Don Ellis, I wouldn't expect anything as monumentally well known as THE DEADLY TOWER.

Of course, I could be way off in my guesses, but I am sure that whatever it is, it'll be a terrific release. I hope nobody is put off just because they are unfamiliar with the shows.

Oh, and three cheers again to Lukas and co. for that wonderful Fielding score! I'd been KILLING to see that released, and now I can stop HUNTING (bad puns, not even the right words for the title).

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)




Thank you for the music, the songs Ron's singing
thanks for all the joy they're bringing



Some weeks ago we were discussuing the sensational scores of TNG's first season in this thread.

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=69012&forumID=1&archive=0

A lot of people, me included, were longing for more of Ron Jone's scores ond CD.
And now there's this awesome box set coming up. Can't believe it!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I always hoped you could release the original WB LP of "I Spy" by Earl Hagen.
It's one of my favorite LP's from the sixties.


I'm hoping for that release as well.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)


 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2010 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   DanH   (Member)

re: TNG - If this is going to turn into a mope session that we could not include the two scores you already have, rather than giving you the 40 you did not, then I quit. I honestly don't want to hear it. There was nothing I could do.

Lukas


Personally, I don't really care. This might have been a dream project for you, but it's been a dream of mine to have a chance of even getting a 1/5 of this. Best Of Both Worlds was easily the best episode Ron Jones scored, but it wasn't his best score. I'm stoked that I'll be getting "11001001," "Q Who" (better Borg score), "Booby Trap." and "Night Terrors" (where he even got to play with a choir before the Bermanizer assimilated every score). While the "Best of Both Worlds" CD might keep Neil Norman from being homeless, I'm pretty sure he could have been "biggus dickus" and kept Lukas from releasing "Heart of Glory" (another score better than BOBW) as well.

Like every fanboy, all I can do is thank Lucas for getting even this much and ask him another question:

Is it in the realm of things possible for a 2 or 3 CD set of the other greats from TNG Season 1 and 2 like Fred Steiner's "Code of Honor," Dennis McCarthy's "Arsenal of Freedom" and "Time Squared," and George Romanis' "Too Short a Season?" smile

 
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