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 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 2:42 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I have both releases the Silva and the SAE original tracks and its the original tracks..in mono that I prefer.

I agree -- the original performance, under Moross' own baton, can't be beat.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 3:13 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Now didja havta make me rue NOT having ordered the OST so soon? I'm going to be kicked out of the orthodox branch as it is if I keep listening to Thor's adviceeek. Let the punishment of my heresy be slow and gradual, in correspondence to the manner of said heresy.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

In udda woids, TILT

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



I agree -- the original performance, under Moross' own baton, can't be beat.



Only if you one of the poor souls who can't get past the original soundtrack recording is always THE BEST thing since sliced bread mindset.


The SILVA recording is outstanding and on a sonic level vastly superior to the mono OST.

This isn't to say that the OST isn't a wonderful performance,but somethings IMHO are better on the SILVA edition then the OST.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yup, agree with Ford. I've heard the original in the movie itself, and I found the Silva release to be vastly superior. It gives you that extra "punch in the face". You won't regret it, Howard, even though I know you have a preference for original tracks (I seem to remember that you liked the MOCKINGBIRD rerecording, though).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Yup, I agree with Ford, too!

I also like several of the great contemporary acrylic oil copies of Da Vinci's MONA LISA I've seen in the "World of Art" store downtown for $99.95.

The slightly enlarged smile, the replacing of the Italian countryside background with that of the American Southwest, the polyester-based canvas backing, the decorative chrome framing, and the use of modern acrylic paints in glowing paintbox colors are vastly superior to the old-fashioned Italian renaissance style featuring subtlety, originality, and the much-inferior mix of hand-ground oil paints.

There's certainly nothing to compare with these modern copies of the old masters.



 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Blah...the proof is in the pudding!

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Perfect analogy, manderley. Though I prefer the black velvet Mona Lisa myself, which I keep right next to my black velvet Elvis...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Perfect analogy, manderley.

It is flawed on so many levels.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   musickco   (Member)

""Perfect analogy, manderley.""

""It is flawed on so many levels.""

Well it is such a big building. I went down there again last night ....

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)



It is flawed on so many levels.


The flaws are subjective, as is the argument. Apples and oranges. You enjoy your Silva treat and we'll enjoy the original, and we'll all be happy, won't we?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



The flaws are subjective


As I stated, the only folks who have a problem are those who can't get past the notion that the OST is always the best...

Dana provides a prime example of such a person.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

(I seem to remember that you liked the MOCKINGBIRD rerecording, though).

Absolutely.
NOT.
The old Ava reigns supreme (even if it is technically a rerecording).

Man do I love these madTASTES GREAT/LESS FILLINGmad wars!cool

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

(I seem to remember that you liked the MOCKINGBIRD rerecording, though).


Which one?


THe Film Music collection recording or the VARESE Re-Recording?

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   dashrr   (Member)

The box set is spectacular...I enjoy the monoaural tracks because it has that great studio like sound...for Herrmann enthusiasts, the box set 12 x 12 booklet has a fascinating description of Moross and Herrmann's childhood and the quip regarding Herrmann's idiosyncratic behavior from Moross..."I don't know about these stories of Benny's tirades..I never saw that brusk side at all."

great stuff.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)



As I stated, the only folks who have a problem are those who can't get past the notion that the OST is always the best...

Dana provides a prime example of such a person.


Ford A. Thaxton


The only thing about your posts that irritates me (their content being otherwise basically irrelevant) is that you insist on stating your highly subjective opinions as though they were somehow factual. Maybe when you grow up you will learn the difference. IMHO, of course. roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



The only thing about your posts that irritates me (their content being otherwise basically irrelevant) is that you insist on stating your highly subjective opinions as though they were somehow factual. Maybe when you grow up you will learn the difference. IMHO, of course. roll eyes


Thank you for keep on proviing my point about your close-minded opinions and views.

I'm the one keeping an open mind about new recordings, not you.

Next..

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)



As I stated, the only folks who have a problem are those who can't get past the notion that the OST is always the best...

Dana provides a prime example of such a person.


Ford A. Thaxton


This debate always rears its head every few years, and I'm not sure why people can't agree to disagree. I prefer the original because I do. It's as simple as that. Just like I am perfectly content with Silva's rerecordings of RAISE THE TITANIC, ROBIN AND MARION, and WALKABOUT, as examples...and feel no compelling need for the original tracks on those. I prefer Morgan and Stromberg's TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE to the original tracks. In this particular case I prefer the original BIG COUNTRY.



Roger

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



This debate always rears its head every few years, and I'm not sure why people can't agree to disagree. I don't agree with Ford's comments. I prefer the original because I do. It's as simple as that.


Your entitled to your opinion.

But, I tend to be vastly more open on such topics and I"m happy to be like that then as close-minded as some are.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2005 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)


Thank you for keep on proviing my point about your close-minded opinions and views.

I'm the one keeping an open mind about new recordings, not you.

Next..

Ford A. Thaxton


As you may have forgotten, Ford, I was trying to "agree to disagree" as Roger suggests, when you popped out of your coffin, uninvited, to pot-shot me once again.

My comment to Thor (not you) was:

"You enjoy your Silva treat and we'll enjoy the original, and we'll all be happy, won't we?"

You just couldn't let that be, could you? I wasn't talking to you or about you, and it had nothing to do with you at all. Are you so starved for any kind of attention at all that you'll deliberately start something, even though you always end up showing your ass by the time it's all over? If you want to be pitied as a pathetic loser, fine with me, but please leave me out of it entirely, okay?

 
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