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 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I love this trailer, the photography is stunning alongside the production design, and the acting looks high class with Daniel Day-Lewis giving another of his "true conviction" portrayals of an American (this should sit nicely next to Gangs of New York and There Will Be Blood). Needless to say I am very excited for this film, possibly the most excited I have been for a new Spielberg picture since Munich. But this score lets me down. I expected no less, it sounds great coming from John Williams and I'm sure it will be a lovely final score with much appreciation shown its way by both members of this message forum and award nominations but within this trailer it appears as much Williams scores for this type of film are: saccharine. I mean in no way of this being an insult, as I greatly admire Maestro Williams and find infinite pleasure from listening to my favorites of his.

That said, in the wake of new compositional talents like Jonny Greenwood or Nick Cave and Warren Ellis, I can't help but simply wish this film had taken an approach more like those. Greenwood and the team of Cave and Ellis have been established musical geniuses for multiple decades and have found new voices within film scoring, voices which bring to us creativity within orchestration and new sounds which have not yet soured in the genre. These composers can also write around sentimentality to create bold musical memories which create more fans and admirers amongst our dirty little outfit.

I'm not condemning Spielberg for hiring Williams (and why would he not?!), but I simply cannot gather the same romantic anticipation many of you gather for this score. I just want to hear what the best of the new blood could bring to a project like this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

nuts_score - I can see where you are coming from but at the same time I wouldn't want to lose the chance to get another delicious score like this from Williams. His deeply emotional style of scoring is what gets me excited about music in general.

That being said, I agree that some of the music from composers you mentioned is highly interesting and gives us a fresh sound in a modern scoring landscape where most new composers like to use synthesizers excessively.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I hope its filled to the rim of that Americana sound and I hope all those that hate that sound go elsewhere.

smile



lol

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm not condoning Spielberg for hiring Williams (and why would he not?!), but I simply cannot gather the same romantic anticipation many of you gather for this score.

Do you mean "condoning" or "condemning"?

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I'm not condoning Spielberg for hiring Williams (and why would he not?!), but I simply cannot gather the same romantic anticipation many of you gather for this score.

Do you mean "condoning" or "condemning"?


Condemning, and rightfully edited now. Such different words!

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2012 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

. . . And Abe Lincoln sure knew how to write a trailer script, didn't he?

Heh heh heh.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2012 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I love this trailer, the photography is stunning alongside the production design, and the acting looks high class with Daniel Day-Lewis giving another of his "true conviction" portrayals of an American (this should sit nicely next to Gangs of New York and There Will Be Blood). Needless to say I am very excited for this film, possibly the most excited I have been for a new Spielberg picture since Munich. But this score lets me down. I expected no less, it sounds great coming from John Williams and I'm sure it will be a lovely final score with much appreciation shown its way by both members of this message forum and award nominations but within this trailer it appears as much Williams scores for this type of film are: saccharine. I mean in no way of this being an insult, as I greatly admire Maestro Williams and find infinite pleasure from listening to my favorites of his.

I'm also really looking forward to this film, and as you say 'Munich' was the last Spielberg film I looked forward to as well. I find it difficult to make a judgment about a score from a 3 minute trailer however, so I find it best to wait until I hear the whole CD. I thought 'War Horse' sounded good in the trailer, didn't like the score when I heard it through.

Do you mean 'finished' score as opposed to 'final' score? Or have I missed something?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2012 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

This is my most-anticipated film score of the year. Thanks for the link, Jason.

If the cover provided is the final draft, I find it most curious that the cover designer (or the design team) deliberately omitted the name of the composer from it - and the world's foremost film composer at that. I wonder what the thinking was?

Ron Burbella


That's just some mock up cover JWFan posted. Its' a crop of the latest movie poster for the film.

James


Here's the actual CD cover from Amazon:



James

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Sony confirmed the track list for me as well, which JWFan originally premiered 6 weeks ago

01. The People’s House (03:41)
02. The Purpose of the Amendment (03:06)
03. Getting Out the Vote (02:48)
04. The American Process (03:56)
05. The Blue and Grey (02:59)
06. “With Malice Toward None” (01:50)
07. Call to Muster and Battle Cry Of Freedom (02:17)
08. The Southern Delegation and the Dream (04:43)
09. Father and Son (01:42)
10. The Race to the House (02:41)
11. Equality Under the Law (03:11)
12. Freedom’s Call (06:06)
13. Elegy (02:34)
14. Remembering Willie (01:51)
15. Appomattox, April 9, 1865 (02:36)
16. The Peterson House and Finale (11:00)
17. “With Malice Toward None” (Piano Solo) (01:31)

1500x1500 version of the cover available here:

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/81OD61nMNuL._AA1500_.jpg

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOLZkFJom3w

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2012 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

I already ordered this on Amazon. I am not anticipating anything because I want the music to make the statement not my own mind. Although he rarely disappoints me.

Judy in Tucson.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2012 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Sony has put up 50 second samples of every track onto Sound Cloud for anyone still unsure

http://soundcloud.com/lincoln-movie/

Also, Amazon.com is currently selling this for $9.99

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009A9EPLM/jwfancom-20


It's also $9.99 in Best Buy stores

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=product&id=2609027

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2012 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

seems like a perfect night to break in this score!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2012 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I've got my copy on it's way from Amazon USA too!
Looking forward to hearing wonderful new music from the maestro.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2012 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I ordered a brand new sealed one for $9.68 plus shipping at Amazon.
Love Johnny Williams.

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2012 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   theMaestraX   (Member)

Ordered mine from Amazon.Com & it arrived brand spankingly SEALED!
Playing it now! Will go nicely with TinTin & WarHorse!
Mr Williams is the BEST!

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2012 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

Mine just came in (thank you Amazon Prime!)

Listening to it at work now. Good stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2012 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Today I listened to the entire cd uninterrupted. It's tremendous. A quiet beauty and strength that Williams hinted at in 'Saving Private Ryan' and alluded to in 'The Patriot'. He here fulfills a musical evocation of the American ideal to rival Copland's own 'A Lincoln Portrait'. I am terrifically moved by what JW has accomplished here after feeling that 'War Horse' and 'Tin Tin' were just him being brilliantly John Williams.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

The more I listen to it the more I like it.

But I have one pet peeve:

I'd like to have the whole score played on solo piano!!

These tracks are the most touching, somehow. The orchestra is fine, no doubt, but whenever there's just the piano the music turms to something... higher, more elevated, more meaningful.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Today I listened to the entire cd uninterrupted. It's tremendous. A quiet beauty and strength that Williams hinted at in 'Saving Private Ryan' and alluded to in 'The Patriot'. He here fulfills a musical evocation of the American ideal to rival Copland's own 'A Lincoln Portrait'. I am terrifically moved by what JW has accomplished here after feeling that 'War Horse' and 'Tin Tin' were just him being brilliantly John Williams.

Agreed. Somehow the restraint Williams shows in the score makes it more powerful. It's just an incredibly beautiful album and feels somehow like the culmination of all of Williams' Coplandesque Americana pieces.

Highly, highly recommended.

CHris

 
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