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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2013 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)


Siegel is an all-time great director!
bruce



Have you really watched the complete filmography of Don Siegel?
It was an uneven B-movie director. His best films were with Clint Eastwood.




his films had the trappings of b-movies - he didn't care enough about lighting, he didn't care enough about fake blood - but he had a real knack for bringing an interesting thematic, and even stylistic, edge to his characters and stories. He was damn good.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

It's kinda fitting that Rosenman and Fielding should be paired.
Jerry is the composer Lenny wanted to be - but failed.
bruce

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

It's kinda fitting that Rosenman and Fielding should be paired.
Jerry is the composer Lenny wanted to be - but failed.
bruce


I'm sorry, I rarely reply to these kinds of things, but this is just an absurd assertion. Lenny was exactly the composer he wanted to be. Ridiculous.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)


Siegel is an all-time great director!
bruce



Have you really watched the complete filmography of Don Siegel?
It was an uneven B-movie director. His best films were with Clint Eastwood.


If you don't consider Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Killers, Charley Varrick, et.al.



The Killers is an average telefilm filled with padding. It was released as a feature film because of a couple of violent scenes. It's really over-rated.

Apart from Invasion of the Body Snatchers or perhaps The Line-Up, the majority of his 1950's films are average.

Charley Varrick was originally designed for Clint Eastwood. Good film, by the way.
His 1960's films are terrible.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

It's kinda fitting that Rosenman and Fielding should be paired.
Jerry is the composer Lenny wanted to be - but failed.
bruce


It's outrageous. These are two different composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm a fan of the movie 'Escape From Alcatraz but was a bit dubious when I heard there was to be a CD. However, the samples are excellent, dark, interesting, challenging. Ordered!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

A shame that I might buy Hell is for Heroes if it was paired with a different Rosenman but Escape from Alcatraz is not for me.


You got that right. Escape really sounds like a tough one to get through. Not sure why some are so excited about it. But good for them I guess.


Escape from Alcatraz is definitely what I'm most interested in with this release. It's a dark, seedy, brooding score; the kind that often defined the atmospheres of 1970's chiller and thriller films that I grew up watching. They don't make 'em like that anymore, which is too bad.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)


You got that right. Escape really sounds like a tough one to get through. Not sure why some are so excited about it. But good for them I guess.



I'm not sure why you would even bother posting that. But good for you, I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Have you really watched the complete filmography of Don Siegel?
It was an uneven B-movie director. His best films were with Clint Eastwood.


'It's kinda fitting that Eastwood and Siegel should be paired.
Don is the film director Clint wanted to be - but failed.' wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I've listened to my copy. The Rosenman score is very enjoyable, with surprisingly excellent sound. There's nothing here that will particularly stand out from the rest in a Rosenman collection, but the typically solid and angular meanderings will please those who enjoy his style, like me.
The Rosenman is only 16 minutes long, but it's pity this isn't the longer of the two scores on the CD because the other one by Fielding is so ugly that even five minutes of it is way too much for my ears.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

I've listened to my copy. The Rosenman score is very enjoyable, with surprisingly excellent sound. There's nothing here that will particularly stand out from the rest in a Rosenman collection, but the typically solid and angular meanderings will please those who enjoy his style, like me.
The Rosenman is only 16 minutes long, but it's pity this isn't the longer of the two scores on the CD because the other one by Fielding is so ugly that even five minutes of it is way too much for my ears.


Interesting reaction. I'm still waiting on mine, though I ordered it on the strength of the Fielding samples. I'm fond of very experimental film music, though I confess that I have to be in the right mood to really appreciate it. I do like Fielding's Demon Seed and some of the samples remind a bit of Marathon Man which I also appreciate.

Rosenman's scores have always left me fairly cold. I can get into his Star Trek IV score, but any of the other scores of his that I've heard have done nothing for me. I can tell that they're intelligently and passionately written, but they've just never clicked for me. Still, glad others out there enjoy his work.

Chris.

PS: To those who have received the score, how prominent is the Fog Horn in the score (heard, for example in the Finish Line cue sound clip)? I really enjoy Ingram Marshall's Fog Tropes pieces and that particular clip reminded me of the Tropes.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

It's kinda fitting that Rosenman and Fielding should be paired.
Jerry is the composer Lenny wanted to be - but failed.
bruce


I'm sorry, I rarely reply to these kinds of things, but this is just an absurd assertion. Lenny was exactly the composer he wanted to be. Ridiculous.

Lukas


my scheme worked!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Have you really watched the complete filmography of Don Siegel?
It was an uneven B-movie director. His best films were with Clint Eastwood.


'It's kinda fitting that Eastwood and Siegel should be paired.
Don is the film director Clint wanted to be - but failed.' wink


nice one!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

.

Rosenman's scores have always left me fairly cold. I can get into his Star Trek IV score, but any of the other scores of his that I've heard have done nothing for me.
Chris.
.


You are aman of taste and intelligence!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



Chris.

PS: To those who have received the score, how prominent is the Fog Horn in the score (heard, for example in the Finish Line cue sound clip)? I really enjoy Ingram Marshall's Fog Tropes pieces and that particular clip reminded me of the Tropes.


did you read my posts about Fog tropes?
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

.Rosenman's scores have always left me fairly cold. I can get into his Star Trek IV score, but any of the other scores of his that I've heard have done nothing for me.
Chris.


You are aman of taste and intelligence!


Just what lunatic asylum did you break out of?

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

.Rosenman's scores have always left me fairly cold. I can get into his Star Trek IV score, but any of the other scores of his that I've heard have done nothing for me.
Chris.


You are aman of taste and intelligence!


Just what lunatic asylum did you break out of?


ARKHAM.
why?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I've listened to my copy. The Rosenman score is very enjoyable, with surprisingly excellent sound. There's nothing here that will particularly stand out from the rest in a Rosenman collection, but the typically solid and angular meanderings will please those who enjoy his style, like me.
The Rosenman is only 16 minutes long, but it's pity this isn't the longer of the two scores on the CD because the other one by Fielding is so ugly that even five minutes of it is way too much for my ears.


Is the rest of ALCATRAZ different from the sound samples? I like what I've heard.
I concur with your thoughts about Rosenman, Basil. I like him alot, but he can be very....consistent.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I've listened to my copy. The Rosenman score is very enjoyable, with surprisingly excellent sound. There's nothing here that will particularly stand out from the rest in a Rosenman collection, but the typically solid and angular meanderings will please those who enjoy his style, like me.
The Rosenman is only 16 minutes long, but it's pity this isn't the longer of the two scores on the CD because the other one by Fielding is so ugly that even five minutes of it is way too much for my ears.


Is the rest of ALCATRAZ different from the sound samples? I like what I've heard.
I concur with your thoughts about Rosenman. I like him alot, but he can be very....consistent.


One thing you can't get from the samples is the length and thus the intense buildup of suspense.
The music that accompanies the breakout (and some earlier scenes where the cons have some close calls geting caught) really builds as it unfolds over the several minutes running time.
Check it out!
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2013 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Is the rest of ALCATRAZ different from the sound samples? I like what I've heard.

One thing you can't get from the samples is the length and thus the intense buildup of suspense.
The music that accompanies the breakout (and some earlier scenes where the cons have some close calls geting caught) really builds as it unfolds over the several minutes running time.
Check it out!
bruce


but the style and content are not radically different from the samples? Just wondering if the samples are the exception (cherry picked) to the rest of the score - which seems to have generated some disapproval here.

 
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