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 Posted:   May 2, 2016 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   rugo   (Member)

Just felt like bumping this thread, as I'm listening to SAYONARA once again. Hopefully one day, from LLL or another label...

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2016 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)



But I'll remain optimistic. smile



Send me an e-mail; address on my profile. We can discuss all kinds of stuff.

John

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2016 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Has anyone checked RCAs tapes - I keep hoping a situation similar to one they had with Summer and Smoke - where they happened to have the entire score in stereo.


Also, for those who care - I have some mono additional tracks for Peyton Place. Not complete but about five or six scenes NOT on the original soundtrack LP.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV


This is such an interesting and enticing thread (from over four years ago!), I figured it was worth a bump. Within it we can see the entire evolution of the recent Waxman twofer from LLL, and it seems like when MV was unsure about doing Peyton or Adventures of a Young Man due to only the LP album programs being available, it was user joec we have to thank for this being a Sony twofer! I'm really hoping LLL is able to reach the break-even point of 1500 copies.

But even more enticing in this thread is the prospect of a complete Sayonara from MV:

This one is complicated but we hope to have something worked out in 2016. I had all the music elements at one point but the project was put on hold.


I didn't know this score at the time but I recently listened to a friend's copy and it is GORGEOUS, one of Waxman's best. I would love an expanded version and have no problem with mono sound if that's the only way it survives. Hopefully this expansion can still come to fruition in the near future.

And perhaps most exciting of all is that MV hints at an expanded Spirit of St. Louis! Goodness how long these projects take -- I hope they hang in there as these are two of Waxman's best and complete versions would be a godsend.

Yavar

P.S. I too miss Ron; he was such a good presence here.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Sometimes the wheels of film score restoration move slowly.

Have faith, brothers. Have faith.

MV


This is such an interesting and enticing thread (from over four years ago!), I figured it was worth a bump. Within it we can see the entire evolution of the recent Waxman twofer from LLL, and it seems like when MV was unsure about doing Peyton or Adventures of a Young Man due to only the LP album programs being available, it was user joec we have to thank for this being a Sony twofer! I'm really hoping LLL is able to reach the break-even point of 1500 copies.

But even more enticing in this thread is the prospect of a complete Sayonara from MV:

This one is complicated but we hope to have something worked out in 2016. I had all the music elements at one point but the project was put on hold.


I didn't know this score at the time but I recently listened to a friend's copy and it is GORGEOUS, one of Waxman's best. I would love an expanded version and have no problem with mono sound if that's the only way it survives. Hopefully this expansion can still come to fruition in the near future.

And perhaps most exciting of all is that MV hints at an expanded Spirit of St. Louis! Goodness how long these projects take -- I hope they hang in there as these are two of Waxman's best and complete versions would be a godsend.

Yavar

P.S. I too miss Ron; he was such a good presence here.


Yavar, this title will always catch my eye. Christmas is coming and maybe a label is feeling benevolent?

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

And definitive Spirit of St. Luis? smile


I'll buy anything smile
There can never be enough Waxman... but perhaps the recent twofer doesn't sell well enough?

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

If the recent twofer doesn't sell well, I'm sure that can be attributed to the complete lack of any new music and the fact that many people already had Peyton Place at the very least. Not that it isn't completely worth buying again for the drastically improved sound!

But let's be honest: expansions of Sayonara or Spirit of St. Louis would most likely sell better because people who have the existing albums have a stronger reason to double dip.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

If the recent twofer doesn't sell well, I'm sure that can be attributed to the complete lack of any new music and the fact that many people already had Peyton Place at the very least. Not that it isn't completely worth buying again for the drastically improved sound!

I would like to believe that unreleased Waxman sells well. I'm a huge Waxman fan. Alas, I have my doubts. I see that Kritzerland has not moved 1,000 copies of "My Geisha" (a release expanded from that LP) in close to five years, and I know "Career" sold poorly, too. (A couple of other Kritzerland Waxmans have sold out.)

Regardless, I did not have the original "Peyton Place" recording. (I had the new recording Varèse had put out.) As far as I recall, the original was only available on CD as an import from Spain. Am I misremembering? (I did have the "Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man," a score I love but which sounded pretty lousy on the previous CD.)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2017 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Current worry, Sayonara is soon to be on twilight time with a music and effects track, even though the original music unites still exist,albeit in mono.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I would like to believe that unreleased Waxman sells well. I'm a huge Waxman fan. Alas, I have my doubts. I see that Kritzerland has not moved 1,000 copies of "My Geisha" (a release expanded from that LP) in close to five years, and I know "Career" sold poorly, too. (A couple of other Kritzerland Waxmans have sold out.)

It's a shame that those two didn't do well. Perhaps My Geisha suffered due to being a comedy, or the fact that a lot of it was Puccini so not 100% Waxman. (No idea why Career did poorly...film too obscure perhaps?) But if you don't think expanded Waxman sells, then surely completely unexpanded Waxman sells worse...yet LLL considered it worthwhile to reissue Peyton Place and Adventures of a Young Man at 2000 copies, twice the the quantity of those Kritzerland titles (yes I'm sure they couldn't have done less, contractually). This thread seems to indicate that LLL has been working on expanded versions of Spirit of St. Louis and Sayonara for some time now, so I suspect they are still going to happen but are taking more time since they were not straight reissues. And I think those two scores are more fan favorite Waxman scores than My Geisha. I might be wrong.

Regardless, I did not have the original "Peyton Place" recording. (I had the new recording Varèse had put out.) As far as I recall, the original was only available on CD as an import from Spain. Am I misremembering? (I did have the "Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man," a score I love but which sounded pretty lousy on the previous CD.)

I thought there was one other CD issue of Peyton Place but I could be wrong. I had the Spanish version.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



Can you imagine the reaction on this board to the announcement of a complete release of this beautiful score?

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Well, MV hasn't chimed in that LLL's planned release has been cancelled, so I figure we should continue to heed his words in this thread and "have faith". smile

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

No self-respecting Sayonara thread is complete until...



wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Moonlight   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Thank you for bringing back this thread and forcing me to listen to the opening again.
Berlin - Waxman.
All is good in the world.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Can you imagine the reaction on this board to the announcement of a complete release of this beautiful score?

Considering that most of the regulars here are into Marvel superhero movies, I suspect the reaction would be largely crickets.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2021 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

The second La La Land announces Sayonara I'm ordering.

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2021 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

No self-respecting Sayonara thread is complete until...



wink


Why, I oughta.... thank you.

I always like a good Stereo opening sequence from a pre-Star Wars picture.

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2021 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

FYI: the Twilight Time SAYONARA Blu-Ray has an isolated m&e track.

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2021 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm fairly pleased with the selections I own on the SAYONARA - ORCHESTRAL SUITES album (about 20 minutes in total), so it's not like I'm in desperate need for more. But I wouldn't be opposed to a nice new re-recording either -- in a succinct, not too long presentation.

 
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