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All Star Wars prequels suck big time, specially "Sith" which is just atrocious at all levels.
But the scores... are just great.
YOR's favorite is "Phanton Menace".
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Carter Burwell didn't like The Jackal and after his score was remixed by someone else even considered taking his name of the film
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Yes, YOR remeber seeing Goldsmith saying nasty things about "Outland".
YOR got really sad, since he just LOVES both movie and score...
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Just saw this amusing paragraph in Mr. Kraft's tribute to Elmer:
The final straw in Elmer’s comedy career arrived with the Bill Cosby comedy disaster, LEONARD PART 6—a film so bad Elmer refused to step into the control booth to talk to the director. The filmmaker eventually tiptoed out to Elmer to say, “I have a few comments.” “That’s nice,” Elmer replied, as he stepped outside the soundstage and drove off in his sports car.
www.kraft-engel.com/tributes/elmer-bernstein/
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Carter Burwell didn't like The Jackal and after his score was remixed by someone else even considered taking his name of the film
Not only remixed, but portions of the score were dialed out and even removed. The film was butchered in an attempt to save it.
I won't say which project, since I don't recall if I can, but there was one Leonard Rosenman worked on where he was having trouble and didn't like the project, and after it was done recording, he did something very similar to a story above with Elmer: he walked out the stage, to his fancy car, and just drove away.
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These guys are professionals. They don't have to love a movie to score it.
Think about your own day job. Do you love it? I mean, every day? Probably not. But does that stop you being a professional? Does it stop you trying to do a good job?
Going back to Barry, he famously hated BORN FREE. And yet it resulted in one of the best loved and most famous movie scores ever. And netted him two Academy Awards.
Cheers
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I remember Jerry Goldsmith's 1989 concert at the Barbican, which was broadcast live on the radio.
JG: "Who here is a Star Trek fan?"
Crowd cheers
JG: "Well, I'm not one."
Not being a fan is not the same as hating. If he really hated them so much, he would not have accepted scoring assignments for 5 of them.
James Horner, on the other hand, did hate it, only did III as a favor and refused to return after that.
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James Horner, on the other hand, did hate it, only did III as a favor and refused to return after that.
Say what?! Got a quote? I seem to remember Horner being quite excited with the prospect of scoring ST TWOK as well as SFS. Though maybe he didn't care for the sequel as much as he thought he would.
I seem to recall he was more unhappy with the rushes and demands of the production schedule and dealing with the producers and refused to ever do another Star Trek movie. The actual movie I don't think he had a problem with. Which seems to be a trend with him, didn't he have some kind of falling out with James Cameron?
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May 26, 2013 - 1:13 PM
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dan the man
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TO STEPHEN WOOLSTON-Sure, you said it, this thread and all this information should not surprise anyone. It has been known for those who inquire for years, that the fan, the viewer has a whole different perspective then the participant of the venture. Be it film, books, sports, you name it.How many movie stars have said they never watch movies much or the films they did. I myself can relate to that like so many others who here might have spent time indulging in the industry itself. I don't think a lot of viewers really understand that or more likely they don't care to. A fan needs to in their world create a leisure pleasure separated from the real world of the event. Sports fans are famous for that, but so are movie fans and other ventures we enjoy in life. As we toil through a life for most people which is working , paying our bills and surviving. Exactly, we don't always love our jobs, but we do what we have to do or go under, THAT'S LIFE.
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May 26, 2013 - 3:11 PM
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dan the man
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I agree,a typical 9 to 5 job unless you are running the company or a top executive in the company, you do leave your job behind both mentally and psychically when you go out the door. While a artist in a venture has it with him 24/7 to a certain extent. But even a artist it will depend upon his or her personality. For instance, a director of mine on one of my films, the minute he finished shooting the scenes, took off, and that was that. Not uncommon but all post production duties, editing , music etc were in my hands and my -co workers, editor, composer etc. I am sure this applies to many film composers as well as examples shown here on this thread. Out of sight out of mind can sometimes apply to all jobs.
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