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 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Question for the cover artists here:

How do you decide on the fonts to use for a specific project? As someone who is not schooled in graphic design, are there specific rules governing the use of fonts (other than don't use too many on the same cover) or is it a subjective thing?


my personal rules are as follows:
- Never use more than 2 or 3 different fonts on one cover
- Try not to use the same font as the title for any other text.
- Pick fonts easy to read but with a design that echoes the general tone or style of the movie it's for (I often look at all the different existing posters or the opening and closing titles to find some guidance)
- Never put the composer's name bigger than the title. unless the album is more about the composer's work than a specific movie.
- Spend as much time as possible finding the best location/size for the text so it supports the artworks instead of destroying it.

I have few more rules I follow but they're just my own and aren't key to a successfully composed cover in my eyes


I pretty much follow the same rules as @steffromuk. There's a basic framework I use, which is why most of my custom art follows the same template: "Original MP Score" and/or "Expanded" across the top and then the composer/performer credits on the bottom just below the title. Lately though, I've tried to branch out with different layouts such as the "Days of Future Past" cover a few pages back.

"License to Kill" is a great example of rule 5 in the list @steffromuk provided. During my first run-through, I really wrestled with the title covering Davi's chin. At the time though, I felt that was the best I could do. Obviously, that turned out not to be true.

Sometimes I will use the same font as the title when I feel the overall result will benefit. "The Mask of Zorro" is the most recent example. After finding a very close match to the font on the posters (I couldn't find a good resolution PNG of the logo, so I had to replicate it), I felt it looked appropriate for the rest of the text because it wasn't a logo-like font per say (if that makes sense). Now, with covers like "Rambo", "Star Trek", and "Small Soldiers", I did elect to put Goldsmith's name in the same font because I felt it was appropriate (with "Small Soldiers", I even turned his name into a logo--but that was also me taking a cue from Varese).

Specifically, I use the fonts Arial, Jura, Calibri, and Candara often. Candara is the font on my Bond art. To give the elements some variety without changing the font, I use the typography tools to change the tracking, height, and/or width of the letters. I also regularly use bold plus the right-click, select "Faux Bold" option to give the text extra thickness when I need it to stand out (that's why some of the Bond covers look like I used a different font when I actually didn't).

But all that technical stuff is secondary IMO. You can have all those rules and know the tools, but if you don't have a good sense of what does/doesn't look good or how to compose the elements, it's probably not going to look good. It doesn't mean every project is going to turn out good, but those misfires become the exception rather than the norm. Not all of mine have worked, but you try to learn from what went wrong and assimilate that into your intuition going forward.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

- Never put the composer's name bigger than the title. unless the album is more about the composer's work than a specific movie.

This is just my personal two cents, but if you want to see an example of this and how it can ruin a cover, take a look at the cover art on LLL's new anniversary edition of Darkman and note just how gigantic Danny Elfman's name is.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

I generally struggle with choosing fonts for older (say pre-mid 60s) films as the fonts used on the.posters are often rather non-descript and don't give reliable results in font identification A.I. services. For example:







 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I generally struggle with choosing fonts for older (say pre-mid 60s) films as the fonts used on the.posters are often rather non-descript and don't give reliable results in font identification A.I. services.

I'll preface this by saying that I have virtually no familiarity with that era, so take what I say with the appropriate grain of salt.

I wonder if those fonts are so hard to identify because they aren't actual fonts. What I mean is that I wonder if the poster artists painted the credits directly onto the original art. I mean, it's not like they could take the key art and then use a computer to overlay the text. What you end up with are individual artists' handwriting rather than an identifiable font that could be replicated.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

I generally struggle with choosing fonts for older (say pre-mid 60s) films as the fonts used on the.posters are often rather non-descript and don't give reliable results in font identification A.I. services.

I would hardly call them nondescript. The grotesk fonts spanning the early 20th century were chosen for their boldness, character and eye-catching, crude geometry. I personally love them and how they were used as actual design elements and not just slapped-on afterthoughts. And while you quite often won't find a font or custom text of that period replicated with exacting precision by a freelance designer or font studio, there are facsimiles which can ably substituted or be modified by oneself, as I've personally done.

re:


I've been meaning to use this one, but I can't find a copy exceeding 760px wide, and given my preferred minimum size to work with is 1000px, I'd really rather not have to resort to a huge white border to compensate. And resizing of vintage images with multifarious textures rarely delivers satisfactory results.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

Just checking in guys; had a good scroll through this part-III thread. Great stuff. You're making me miss joining in with these.
(It's just been a mixture of my attention being elsewhere, lack of inspiration, and the fact that whenever somebody requests something, the best of you seem to leap on it straight away - or already have something in stock!)
Anyway, keep it up; hope you're all keeping well in these weird times.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

...and the fact that whenever somebody requests something, the best of you seem to leap on it straight away - or already have something in stock!)

I for one would be happy to oblige with more requests if that would help big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

I've been meaning to use this one, but I can't find a copy exceeding 760px wide, and given my preferred minimum size to work with is 1000px, I'd really rather not have to resort to a huge white border to compensate. And resizing of vintage images with multifarious textures rarely delivers satisfactory results.

Couid I perhaps suggest combing the core element of this poster with some elements from the others, hopefully that will enable you to "spread the love" to 1000px wide or more wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

@Spinmeister

b1.filmpro.ru/c/243093.jpg

It's 1280x1920 resolution

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I took a swing at eliminating the text for you and bumped it up to 1625 width to give a little more resolution with which to work. It's a little fuzzy where I reconstructed the rays, but maybe you can tinker with it. Hope this helps.

EDIT: Tried to clean up the fuzziness a bit more and updated the image.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

I've been meaning to use this one, but I can't find a copy exceeding 760px wide, and given my preferred minimum size to work with is 1000px, I'd really rather not have to resort to a huge white border to compensate. And resizing of vintage images with multifarious textures rarely delivers satisfactory results.

Here you go!

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Oh, that's jolly nice of you. Where'd ya unearth that from?

and @JGouse0498: nice bit of spic-n-span there.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Oh, that's jolly nice of you. Where'd ya unearth that from?

and @JGouse0498: nice bit of spic-n-span there.


Quite welcome. Hope it helps. Maybe you could even resize and superimpose it on that 2000x3000 version.

Not sure which of us you were asking, but I unearthed mine by right-clicking on the one you posted and selected Search Google for Image (I'm using Chrome as a browser). Scrolled down below the initial image results, and there was a search result in Russian. That's the site where I found it.

EDIT: I think @steffromuk might've done the same because I just found it too.

http://cartelesmix.es/cartelesdecine/?paged=5&m=201802

It's a little ways down the page.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

I swear I did the same thing but only came up with two results, neither of them what you found.

Thanks again, to the both of you.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

That's happened to me plenty of times, and it's most likely because, in the time between one search attempt and a later one, someone somewhere put the key art on the internet. That's why I periodically go back to old projects and try to find better key art.

Of course, it works the opposite way too. I've tried to find old key art that I'd found in the past, and it's nowhere to be found. frown

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

@Spinmeister

I upscaled mine and blended it into the one steffromuk found, and I updated the image in my previous post to link to this new 2000x3000 textless version in my Imgur album. I'm quite eager to see what design you come up with!

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   erepel   (Member)

Exceptional talents are on display in this thread. Many thanks for the contributions.

I am curious if anyone has created covers for (a) "Ladyhawke" to feature the late Rutger Hauer in addition to Broderick and Pfeiffer, and (b) each disk for LLL's 4-disc "Star Trek 50th Anniversary Rarities"?

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

Oh, that's jolly nice of you. Where'd ya unearth that from?

and @JGouse0498: nice bit of spic-n-span there.


Thanks! I actually use this Spanish goldmine/website that collects all posters for all films of all eras, trying to offer the highest quality available on the web.

https://cartelesmix.es/cartelesdecine/

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

And talking about FREUD, here is my cover from the stunning Polish poster art.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2020 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

I did a variation of that one last night. Here's clearin' a bit of a backlog:

Flim Flam Man


A Girl Named Sooner


Freud: The Deluxe Version (Ver. 1)


White Dog


Devil at 4 O'Clock (why "Golden" I have to wonder, the film was released in '61. Just because Duning?)


The Wild Bunch


The Wild Bunch Ver. 2

 
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