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My copy has arrived. Now it's sitting in my shelf. I hope to sell it soon for ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
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I ordered the two LP edition of the soundtrack album for "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny" on July 22nd, and received a confirmation notice from the Disney Music Emporium. My bank account was charged in the amount of $58.25. I similarly placed an order for the CD of the soundtrack by John Williams at Disney Music Emporium on August 24th, and received an e-mail confirmation that my bank would be billed in the amount of $20.23. I've received no follow up information since then on either order and, when I telephoned the Disney Store, they appeared to have NO information whatsoever on either order. Does anyone here have a different telephone number for The Disney Emporium where I might check into this further??????? I'm growing increasingly concerned and annoyed. Many Thanks. Steve
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Mine arrived last week and I love it. But...it feels so truncated in typical Williams fashion. The opening scene in the movie last 20 or 25 minutes with music throughout but 'Germany, 1944' last a little over 4 minutes? The same with the Tuk Tukscene and other actionscenes. I could have done without Helena's theme in the Mutter version too and wished for other stuff like the New York scene. But in the end I'm glad we got a CD. Hoping for a complete score someday.
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Sep 20, 2023 - 12:39 AM
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Mine arrived last week and I love it. But...it feels so truncated in typical Williams fashion. The opening scene in the movie last 20 or 25 minutes with music throughout but 'Germany, 1944' last a little over 4 minutes? The same with the Tuk Tukscene and other actionscenes. I could have done without Helena's theme in the Mutter version too and wished for other stuff like the New York scene. But in the end I'm glad we got a CD. Hoping for a complete score someday. Finally, a view that mirrors my own! After all the sturm und drang of receiving the album...I was completely underwhelmed. I did enjoy the film, but damn this is like Presumed Innocent Has A Near Miss And Feels Tense. Not INDIANA BLOODY JONES FIGHTS A TANK!! Extracting the very few minutes of action material present on album, that feels 90 years old, it's a lethargic pale shadow of even Crystal Skull's energy. I fought dozing off in the endless middle section of atmospherics (something, more apologies!, William's has never really excelled in. And this album is stuffed with that scoring...). Before rounding up the pitchforks, I adore John Williams. Got everything on album(except John Goldfarb....sorry LK), and most of his films. Even Heartbeeps & Space Camp. And, again, I truly enjoyed the final Indy film, and was able to ignore the agenda shite and overall downtrodden tone. Folks, if you can't obtain this...what can I say. It's a bottle cap. Surely in a decade or less, a revisit to all the Indy's may happen. Just don't pin so much importance on this one, nor stress out if you missed it. A revisit/expansion is bound to happen....just be patient. And no, I'm not selling my copy, after all that, to get one. I need to give it 5 more chances. Helena's Theme is lovely, and feels 1940s-Barryesque, as someone mentioned in this hell thread of shipping notices & updates. The focus was certainly (annoyingly) put onto her (weak, uninteresting) character as the torch bearer. We know how that's going to work out! Take your pitchforks to Kennedy, I guess. Anyone ever sort the how & why this all went wrong?! **.5 / 5
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For those who, like me, ordered it ... I don't remember the date, but the first time it came back from oblivion (2/3 into August?), I got a shipping notice today.
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Much as I love them as film composers, I've long thought both Williams and Goldsmith to be woefully inconsistent (at best) when it came to selecting cues and producing albums of their work. How do you entirely leave Lancelot's Theme off the original First Knight album? How do you make an album for The Shadow where the love theme only appears once? (Or have Sybok's theme only appear in one cue on a 38 minute album for Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, which is also jumbled up with no sense of narrative within it?) And for Williams, his original albums for *both* Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny leave off tons of action (and other) highlights, in favor of a lot of much less interesting cues. It's mind-boggling at times. It's like what Goldsmith did with Star Trek: Nemesis, that 48 minute album (generous, in pure terms of length) really drags, because half of it was low-key suspense scoring instead of all the awesome action music and wonderfully nostalgic thematic callbacks to The Motion Picture which he *could* have included on the album. There was a killer 48 minute album to be made for that score which would have lived up to the Varese Sarabande hype... but (to be charitable) that press release must have been written by Robert Townson after attending the sessions. And sheesh, don't even get me started on Williams's programming choices for Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. That album was just a slog, with a lot of less interesting underscore and well over half the tracks being two cues dramatically combined with an and. What if I just want to play "The Flag Parade" on its own (maybe add it to some self-made compilations), *without* always having to hear the relatively boring "The Arrival at Tatooine" before it? That album left off tons of highlights and thematic development which was only later heard on the (also incredibly flawed of course) "Ultimate Edition" of the score. The Mike Matessino expansions are truly a godsend. Sometimes artists are very poor judges of their own work. It's a shame that scores that are really very good (like Jerry's Star Trek: Nemesis and the last two Indiana Jones scores by Williams) end up being judged and dismissed based on their relatively poor album programs. Yavar
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