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 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Oh and here is an idea: Not buying every single last re-re-re-issue could perhaps free up some hard earned cash for other purchases. Just a thought.

Unless a decent, all-encompassing release of season sets of SPACE: 1999 music happen to be one of the things one wants to free up some cash for. The price of both membership and CD, plus double shipping for both, makes this pretty impossible for anyone who is only interested in Gerry Anderson productions for SPACE: 1999.

Your "oh and here is an idea" is worded a) sarcastically and b) assumes a great deal about what purchases other fans would, could, should put their money to. Clearly if I'm sad that I can't afford this particular release, it's probably obvious that this music holds a special place in my heart - about, oh $50 worth or so, not $170 for a few CDs, regardless how much I love that music.


Yes, a true tragedy it is. Although I've heard that Fanderson orchestrated this whole huge conspiracy just to deprive you (yes, you specifically!) of your precious music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 10:11 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

the Lalaland Thunderbirds release is on the Fanderson merchandise site - maybe LLL can start charging a "membership fee" to overseas purchasers, heheh. Two can play this game.wink
http://fanderson.org.uk/gerryandersonnews/2014/08/thunderbirds-films-sountracks-to-be-released/


Overseas customers already pay quite a significant premium for orders made from US stores, even more so than those of us in Canada, in both higher shipping (the $2.00 per additional disc must really hurt on large orders compared to the $.50 Americans and Canadians pay) and in many cases customs duties.

And they don't actually sell the LLL Thunderbirds release; what you linked to is the News site, with a link to LLL's own store for people interested in purchasing. If I understand it correctly, the Fanderson merchandise section isn't a true reseller or online store where they're free to just sell any release the way Intrada or MovieMusicStore or BSX can. I read their FAQ, and because they're a club, and therefore "trade" with fellow members, they're exempt from paying UK income tax, lowering their overall costs and allowing them to put more into the merchandise they offer.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

If I'm doing the math correctly, this is not worth it for someone who (a) doesn't live in England, and (b) has the Silva Screen albums. Unless you are fabulously wealthy and obsessed with this stuff.

With the GB to US exchange rate, the set cost me $60. Total.

I'm not wealthy nor obsessed (passionate, maybe). I also have the Silva Screen Albums which leave off a lot of great music.

I order a lot from the UK (Network DVD and Amazon) and shipping is never all that much, really. Fanderson did not piss me off in the slightest. Money well spent.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If I'm doing the math correctly, this is not worth it for someone who (a) doesn't live in England, and (b) has the Silva Screen albums. Unless you are fabulously wealthy and obsessed with this stuff.

With the GB to US exchange rate, the set cost me $60. Total.

I'm not wealthy nor obsessed (passionate, maybe). I also have the Silva Screen Albums which leave off a lot of great music.

I order a lot from the UK (Network DVD and Amazon) and shipping is never all that much, really. Fanderson did not piss me off in the slightest. Money well spent.


That is including membership and postage and album costs? For how many albums?

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Membership is separate, which I didn't have a problem with since I plan to order more than just this CD set.

It was $60 for the set which included postage.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

DP

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

So it adds up. Not worth it for me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

[With the GB to US exchange rate, the set cost me $60. Total.

I'm not wealthy nor obsessed (passionate, maybe). I also have the Silva Screen Albums which leave off a lot of great music.

I order a lot from the UK (Network DVD and Amazon) and shipping is never all that much, really. Fanderson did not piss me off in the slightest. Money well spent.


Yes, same for me. Placed my order.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

Except for Customs charges, I would think that the strong Euro and Pound would easily compensate for expensive USA postage. Whereas if we in the USA try to order directly from UK/Europe (rather than Screenarchives), we pay a lot.

I might agree if the average salary in the UK were appreciably higher, but apparently it's around £26500, and converted directly that's actually lower than the average salary in either the US or Canada. Coupled with the appreciably higher cost of living in the UK, I doubt the favorable conversion helps most buyers all that much.

Of course the figures well vary across Europe, but that's one case.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I might agree if the average salary in the UK were appreciably higher, but apparently it's around £26500, and converted directly that's actually lower than the average salary in either the US or Canada.

now you're just being silly - average salaries are quite a different thing than comparing exchange rates. I dont see how that's going to inform the "average" soundtrack consumer.


Sorry, but I believe the total amount of money with which one has to budget is an important consideration if you're really intent on competing for who has the hardest time of it, which is kind of what started the ball rolling on being silly, IMO. And, based on that figure, a typical individual in the UK has a roughly equivalent amount of money to play with in a given year as in our own countries in spite of the fact the UK has a higher cost of living overall, which probably means less for non-essentials like music CDs.

If you're further trying to suggest that the typical soundtrack collector has a higher probability of having an income far exceeding what's typical for their country of residence, admittedly I've seen no statistics but I see no reason to make that assumption. The members on this board seem to hail from quite a wide variety of backgrounds, locations, and occupations.

I'm sure there are a decent number of affluent soundtrack collectors who don't have to worry about getting what they want regardless of what or where it is, but it seems to me that this isn't a majority by a long shot. A number of the replies in this thread speak to that fact.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2014 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I just think it's important to remember that very few of us have it that easy, regardless of where we live, and that a favorable exchange rate alone doesn't negate the higher shipping that overseas customers have to pay. I'm fortunate in only being as far as Canada, so I don't usually pay much more for shipping from stores like Screen Archives or Intrada than an American customer... just a little more for the base shipping price, and then the same price per additional disc as Americans.

Most of the time it's us who get the better deal, so I'm not going to complain too much one of the few times we don't. That said, I do think a high-resolution PDF delivery option for Fanderson's magazine would be a great idea, since that way they wouldn't have to charge those of us in "the rest of the world" so much extra for the membership fee.

I had to give it some serious thought before I decided to spring for a membership to get this CD, but ultimately I decided it was worth it. Because I'm not just interested in the Space:1999 CD, but also the upcoming Thunderbirds release. What also helped me decide is that Fanderson has several other Barry Gray CDs I had no idea existed before reading this thread, so for the cost of international membership I not only get access to Space:1999, presumably Thunderbirds at some point, but also Supercar, Fireball XL5, Stingray, and UFO.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

Membership of Fanderson would give you access to soundtracks from:

Stingray
UFO
Fireball XL5
Space: 1999
Supercar
The Secret Service
Terrahawks
Four Feather Falls
Thunderbirds (coming soon)

If you're a fan of Barry Gray, amortising the cost of membership across several discs makes it far more attractive.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Can we get back to discussing the music likely to be on these discs instead of complaining about the cost? It's not like this is the only album ever to have this drawback.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I think that all of the specialty/boutique labels should charge a membership fee. It will be absorbed over all the discs we buy. Maybe they can make it an annual membership fee that we will have to pay each year. It will be worth it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


hard to discuss it when they havent posted a tracklist (or samples)



I'm not aware of Fanderson ever posting tracklistings or samples. Perhaps someone knows different.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I'm not aware of Fanderson ever posting tracklistings or samples. Perhaps someone knows different.

Nope - see for yourself.

http://www.fanderson.org.uk/fansales/fansale.html#CD

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member)

Just to recap...there was a 2-CD release of SPACE:1999 from Fanderson back in 2003? And now there's this 3-CD set coming out in a few weeks.

The new release, is it all that was on the 2-CD release plus some additional music (and a bit of remastering)? Or is there no overlap between the two releases? And how does the Silva release fit in with the Fanderson discs in terms of music available (as far as anyone can tell)?

The cost of a membership could be at stake! Ta.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member)

Thanks. I reread it and it sounds as though the new set will include what's already available plus new material. Since I only have the Silva release it may be worth joining for this and UFO.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)



The first edition was a 2-CD set running 143 minutes.
CD-1 lasted 72:16 with 27 tracks.
CD-2 lasted 71:39 with 22 tracks.

 
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