Unless part of it was recorded elsewhere (London?) there would likely have been different configurations of the orchestra with whatever players were available for the respective dates. Varese seems to either list the members from one specific call date as the "orchestra" or list everybody from all the sessions alphabetically like LLL does. And there may have been pick up sessions elsewhere. reading specific player credits and talking to some of the guys down in LA it's amazing how often this happens when, in the credits, only one contractor or orchestra is listed. It is almost impossible to know who is playing on which cue unless you recognize their sound or make an educated guess based on the fact that certain composers only use certain principle players. For instance, the story goes that Horner and Malcolm Mcnab had a falling out around the time of Rocketeer and that’s why David Washburn has (had) been his 1st trumpet ever since.
Excitedly ordered. But I don't understand. I thought varese was washed up. Haven't we been told by so many that varese doesn't release anything anybody wants anymore? Where is that chorus?
I have a feeling all our neighbors are not going to be very happy with us as I'd imagine many of us will be playing this very loud on our home speakers annoying the others on our block
I have a feeling all our neighbors are not going to be very happy with us as I'd imagine many of us will be playing this very loud on our home speakers annoying the others on our block
Frankly, it just goes to show what poor taste in music they have.
They should be grinning from eat-to-ear with such awesomeness coming from their speakers.
Unless part of it was recorded elsewhere (London?) there would likely have been different configurations of the orchestra with whatever players were available for the respective dates.
That's all it is - standard 'A' orchestra and smaller 'B' orchestra.
I have a feeling all our neighbors are not going to be very happy with us as I'd imagine many of us will be playing this very loud on our home speakers annoying the others on our block
Is this a comment on the mastering? I know my neighbors were furious when the lush strings of John Barry's Peggy Sue Got Married came through the speakers like it was Metallica's Death Magnetic or something.
Is this a comment on the mastering? I know my neighbors were furious when the lush strings of John Barry's Peggy Sue Got Married came through the speakers like it was Metallica's Death Magnetic or something.
May I ask what exactly the issue was with the Peggy Sue mastering? I've searched the other threads for that title but cannot find any details.
Is this a comment on the mastering? I know my neighbors were furious when the lush strings of John Barry's Peggy Sue Got Married came through the speakers like it was Metallica's Death Magnetic or something.
May I ask what exactly the issue was with the Peggy Sue mastering? I've searched the other threads for that title but cannot find any details.
It was brick-walled in the mastering process. So what was once a wistful, nostalgic score is now thunderingly loud and no longer tender.
I have a feeling all our neighbors are not going to be very happy with us as I'd imagine many of us will be playing this very loud on our home speakers annoying the others on our block
Frankly, it just goes to show what poor taste in music they have.
They should be grinning from eat-to-ear with such awesomeness coming from their speakers.
Is this a comment on the mastering? I know my neighbors were furious when the lush strings of John Barry's Peggy Sue Got Married came through the speakers like it was Metallica's Death Magnetic or something.
May I ask what exactly the issue was with the Peggy Sue mastering? I've searched the other threads for that title but cannot find any details.
It was brick-walled in the mastering process. So what was once a wistful, nostalgic score is now thunderingly loud and no longer tender.
Ugh!! While I hate this practice in pop music, I can sort of understand the thinking behind it, given how most consumers listen to pop music.
But, film scores!!??
I frigging HATE brick-walling. Nothing is gained in that process.
It was brick-walled in the mastering process. So what was once a wistful, nostalgic score is now thunderingly loud and no longer tender.
Forgive my ignorance Roger, but is it simply a volume issue or is there some other problem such as clipping/distortion? Can it be corrected by the listener in any way?
It was brick-walled in the mastering process. So what was once a wistful, nostalgic score is now thunderingly loud and no longer tender.
Forgive my ignorance Roger, but is it simply a volume issue or is there some other problem such as clipping/distortion? Can it be corrected by the listener in any way?
You can correct it by not buying Varese's Club releases until they stop with their wrong-headed mastering choices and just listening to the old, unexpanded album.
You can correct it by not buying Varese's Club releases until they stop with their wrong-headed mastering choices and just listening to the old, unexpanded album.
In the case of Peggy Sue, I've already bought it. The old album was not an option due to unavailability and pricing on the secondary market. So I guess I'll just have to deal with the brick-walling, assuming I can actually detect it (the cd is still shrink-wrapped). I've listened to the samples and they didn't bother me sound-wise so possibly I'm less sensitive to the issue. I'll have to give them a listen again to be sure. Either way I'm still thrilled that Varese is expanding and re-issuing stuff that only a few years ago we thought we'd never see (I'm talking about titles they own in perpetuity, not sure if Peggy Sue is one of them).
Anyway, this is now way off topic so back to Starship Troopers...
Excitedly ordered. But I don't understand. I thought varese was washed up. Haven't we been told by so many that varese doesn't release anything anybody wants anymore? Where is that chorus?
My thinking exactly. Maybe they'll go back under their respective rocks and stay there.
You can correct it by not buying Varese's Club releases until they stop with their wrong-headed mastering choices and just listening to the old, unexpanded album.
In the case of Peggy Sue, I've already bought it. The old album was not an option due to unavailability and pricing on the secondary market. So I guess I'll just have to deal with the brick-walling, assuming I can actually detect it (the cd is still shrink-wrapped). I've listened to the samples and they didn't bother me sound-wise so possibly I'm less sensitive to the issue. I'll have to give them a listen again to be sure. Either way I'm still thrilled that Varese is expanding and re-issuing stuff that only a few years ago we thought we'd never see (I'm talking about titles they own in perpetuity, not sure if Peggy Sue is one of them).
Anyway, this is now way off topic so back to Starship Troopers...
I placed my order as soon as I saw this thread lol.
Can't wait to hear the extended & unreleased tracks in my car.
It was brick-walled in the mastering process. So what was once a wistful, nostalgic score is now thunderingly loud and no longer tender.
Forgive my ignorance Roger, but is it simply a volume issue or is there some other problem such as clipping/distortion? Can it be corrected by the listener in any way?
Essentially there are two things going on. First the dynamic range is compressed, so that the levels of the quietest passages in the music are raised to match the levels of the loudest sections. Then the levels of everything are raised to the maximum, which does result in clipping. The music no longer sounds tender and one can get ear fatigue. No, you can't fix these things at home.
