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A thread like this just goes to show how difficult it is to agree on what is an awful film. One person's awful film is another person's masterpiece and vice versa.
Yes but some things are recognized facts: The Swarm, Batman & Robin, King Kong Lives are universally considered bombs!
Other movies are not The Burbs, Poltergeist II, Jaws the Revenge.
Even opinions have some limits in common sense!
Hom many people in the world believe there is something to be saved from JAWS IV ? Ha! 
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U N D E R - S I E G E 2
D a r k T e r r i t o r y
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The Silver Chalice-Masterpiece of a score saddled with a dreadful movie.
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A thread like this just goes to show how difficult it is to agree on what is an awful film. One person's awful film is another person's masterpiece and vice versa.
This is of course true. Therefore, I think it is prudent when discussing these things to also take the general consensus into the equation. One may dislike certain movies, but that does not necessarily mean they are generally considered "bad". Also, one may consider a movie a masterpiece which is generally regarded as a poor movie, but at least one should know then that one champions an "underdog".
I mean, hardly anyone would consider Irwin Allen's THE SWARM a truly good movie. Personally, I love it, though maybe not for the originally intended reasons; I consider it the best Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker film, done without their involvement and fall of the couch laughing just thinking about this movie.
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Yes but some things are recognized facts: The Swarm, Batman & Robin, King Kong Lives are universally considered bombs!
THE SWARM and KING KONG LIVES, maybe. But BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN & ROBIN are rather misunderstood films. Schumacher applied the 'camp' of the 60s series to big, A-list production values. There's something to be lauded there, even if it alienated fans of the comic book hero in the post-Tim Burton BATMAN era.
I agree about BATMAN & ROBIN hearkening back to the 1960's TV series, the very same series the first two Tim Burton BATMAN movies wanted to set themselves apart from. But still, BATMAN & ROBIN is generally a poorly regarded film, even though it may be misunderstood indeed. In fact, now that there is a "real" BATMAN trilogy (the one by Christopher Nolan nails the Batman I saw in the Batman comics by Neal Adams and Jim Aparo, which I read as a kid), I enjoy Schumacher's Batman considerably more, because it is lurid and over the top, campy, big and dumb in a good way. Back when it came out though, it looked like Schumacher put the nail in the coffin for any serious Batman adaptation, which is probably why it was so universally despised.
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Under Fire is an INCREDIBLE movie.
It’s one of the few truly great films that Jerry scored in the mid 80’s.
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Same as SHOWGIRLS, really. Also a terribly misunderstood film that is only now starting to get the credit it deserves. To be fair, BATMAN & ROBIN is not as subversive and satirical as the Verhoeven movie, but it suffered the fate of being judged on the wrong premises. It's very "meta" in what it tries to do -- this lavish, over-the-top spectacle that points to itself as cinema. No masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, but a filmatic project that deserves to be judged for what it is. A kind of John Waters film set in the BATMAN universe. 
Agreed, about BATMAN & ROBIN, it is a loud, garish Meta-Batman bubble gum flick... but at that time, that was just what the 60s Batman had done already. As I said, it was the fact that it practically burned the Batman franchise why it was so despised. Now that the actual comic book Batman has stepped onto the screen in form of Christian Bale or Ben Affleck, it is easier to enjoy the completely miscast George Clooney. :-)
I always enjoyed SHOWGIRLS... it may not be a masterpiece, but if anything, it has, well, SHOWGIRLS! :-)
A movie that was definitely misunderstood -- very much to my surprise -- was STARSHIP TROOPERS, also by Verhoeven, a splendid movie and one of the most subversive satires to ever come out of Hollywood. Perhaps Verhoeven's greatest Hollywood achievement was that he got that movie greenlighted and produced. Yet some actually took it at face value!
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