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The Thorian Exegesis
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Dec 18, 2019 - 11:58 AM
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1977
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I see it as a perfectly legitimate word to use to describe composers who you not only consider low in talent and quality, but also overrated and overused ("The Emperor's New Clothes"), and even resorting to lazy, unoriginal solutions; that's the more cynical part of the definition. In other words -- people who have succeeded in the business, but where their success is not mirrored in the quality of their work. But hey, I'm open to other, better words -- if one exists that has an equally negative value. The important thing was to highlight my distaste for Franglen (and the other composers) and their "take-over" of things I love; not necessarily which negative word describes them best.
Okay, that makes sense. I have to say most of what you have written here summarises my general feelings about Hans Zimmer's work and influence (with few exceptions, primarily of the animated and rom-com variety) - particularly "people who have succeeded in the business, but where their success is not mirrored in the quality of their work".
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Posted: |
Dec 18, 2019 - 12:27 PM
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Mike Esssss
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Okay, that makes sense. I have to say most of what you have written here summarises my general feelings about Hans Zimmer's work and influence (with few exceptions, primarily of the animated and rom-com variety).
Yes, I know. I've often seen the word used in relation to him, without anyone raising an eyebrow. And while I vehemently disagree with such an assessment, I wouldn't consider it 'childish' on your part if you called him a 'hack'. Instead, I'd probably '"interrogate" you on how informed you were, to sway your view.
I think it's as simple as the fact that the word is pejorative, particularly in relation to professionally creative endeavors, and lots of people here love to hate Zimmer. But that doesn't qualify the opinion or the use of the word.
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You know, it occurred to me that probably half the reason for the hire was not necessarily Franglen's abilities, which were undoubtedly the other half, but that having worked with Horner since "Avatar" and knowing how Horner not only worked, but likely witnessed a great deal of the communication between James and James, it was probably a case of familiarity; hiring somebody you know know's how you personally work as a director with a composer. That probably went a long way.
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So what do you think about the Franglen link I shared, Thor?
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You know, it occurred to me that probably half the reason for the hire was not necessarily Franglen's abilities, which were undoubtedly the other half, but that having worked with Horner since "Avatar" and knowing how Horner not only worked, but likely witnessed a great deal of the communication between James and James, it was probably a case of familiarity; hiring somebody you know know's how you personally work as a director with a composer. That probably went a long way.
Agreed, almost the same, what I thinking about it 
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