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I was just reading Norman Del Mar's "Anatomy of the Orchestra" (a great book with more than you want to know about the orchestra) Thanks for the book tip!
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This includes the "early version" compositions and the Courage and Steiner cues! And there is an "early version" of "Body Meld", with more measures and a different ending than the film version. Was this ever performed and recorded? There are four cues included which were never recorded: Preludium - an alternate Overture, love theme arr. Fred Steiner Total Logic - early version, before Goldsmith wrote the Spock/Vulcan theme Pre-Launch - early version, same idea as the Steiner-arranged film version, a little different and longer Body Meld - an early version featuring the love theme which Bob Wise rejected as being "too romantic." Presumably it was rehearsed, but never recorded. Lukas
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Mr. Kendall, given the co-credit you received, would you mind describing your role with this publication? It is because of this message board I became aware of this, and have not even begun to scratch the surface after my initial run of playing the music while following the score. Thanks for your nice words but I really did very little! I helped Omni with some of the communication with Paramount, where I know the executives, and did a small amount of proofreading and consulting over the course of the production. Huge fan of Omni's work and happy to help them! Lukas
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Is Jerry's first version of the space dock music included, the one he talked about on the DVD interview (the cue where Robert Wise asked 'where's the theme?') Great cue, like a more modern take on "Plymouth Adventure." EVERYTHING is included!!! Even four cues that were written and orchestrated, but not recorded! Lukas
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Let's crowdfund an orchestra! YES! And let's fill out the disc with a premiere recording of Babe...hell we could call the disc Premiere Goldsmith! Yavar P.S. plus as a bonus the end credits of Rambo: First Blood Part II so we can have it in great sound.
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The book is huge and has EVERYTHING in it (covering 42 separate tracks, 11 of which were unused/early versions). i've looked through a few of the other Omni versions and I really appreciate the detail and care put into annotating things so it's easier to follow along. "Total Recall" for example mentions how the sheet music for the main title splits off into another cue, which you can imagine would normally make this kind of music harder to follow. We're lucky that older music for the most part was presented as-composed in the film without heavy music editing. Thanks Omni! Also, Yavar, I listened to the Goldsmith and Williams podcast and didn't realize it was yours - great job with that epic podcast and I'm looking forward to hearing the others. Thanks Yavar (and to the others on the podcast who I haven't seen here on the boards yet).
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This includes the "early version" compositions and the Courage and Steiner cues! And there is an "early version" of "Body Meld", with more measures and a different ending than the film version. Was this ever performed and recorded? There are four cues included which were never recorded: Preludium - an alternate Overture, love theme arr. Fred Steiner Total Logic - early version, before Goldsmith wrote the Spock/Vulcan theme Pre-Launch - early version, same idea as the Steiner-arranged film version, a little different and longer Body Meld - an early version featuring the love theme which Bob Wise rejected as being "too romantic." Presumably it was rehearsed, but never recorded. Lukas Curious, with all this Steiner involvement, was there ever the possibility that Steiner might score the film? Was it Roddenberry or Goldsmith that brought him to the project?
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I think Steiner was brought on board by JG because of time constraints. Jerry had to write a huge amount of music in an absurdly short amount of time, plus several sequences were still far from complete when he started writing.
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Goldsmith was just about the first major talent assigned to the film, even before Bob Wise was I believe. At the risk of showing my age, it was the "Star Trek Report" in Starlog # 15 where I first learned that Jerry Goldsmith had been signed to compose the score. Fun times. What age? We’re all assuming you’re 25 and picked up a copy of Starlog from eBay. Also, wow, I didn’t know Fred Steiner did compositions for this too!
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Read the Starlog column here (August 1978 issue): https://archive.org/details/starlog_magazine-015/page/n29/mode/2up Lukas Certainly brings back memories. Surprisingly, this is one of the issues I actually have in my (minimal) collection (remember the Gerry Anderson Space Report?) As for "Star Trek," does anyone know if "Phase 2" had gotten developed to the point where composers were being discussed? I assume Courage's involvement, because of his commitment to "The Waltons," would have been at best, minimal. Fred Steiner, because of Bob Justman's fondness of him/admiration of his work, would have been the logical choice as principal composer with people like Robert Prince (who scored "The Fantastic Journey"), Jerrold Immel and Bruce Broughton (both of whom worked on the series "Logan's Run") likely scoring the odd episode. Dick DeBenedictis, Mark Snow and Pat Williams (who had an association with Paramount via "The Magician") are other possibilities and, of course, Gerry Fried (who had just won the Emmy for "Roots" and was doing more and more TV movies) might have come back for some shows. Who do you think would have scored "Phase 2" (or who would have been your choices)?
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