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That track list is awesome, I love how thorough they were, to even use available disc space to include film constructs, that's great!
Can't wait to learn more about the different versions of cues, etc.
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If Disc 1 is "the film score" than why are a lot of the film versions on Disc 2?
If I had to guess, disc 1 is as Kamen wrote it, disc 2 contains the overdubs/remixes that were done for the film.
That's how I'm interpreting it too. Definitely eager to read the liner notes!
Because Disc 1 ALSO has tracks labeled (Film Version), I wonder if:
Disc 1 and Disc 2: Original Album Tracks feature Kamen's music sans Badelt in a "Kamen is happy with this music"-state
Disc 2: Additional Music features all the edits and Badelt overdubs that is in a "Kamen is not happy with this music"-state but represents what is actually heard in the film
To make sense though, it would have to mean that on the original 12-track release, 7 of those cues (the ones listed here under "Original Album Tracks") were always WITHOUT Badelt, while the remaining 5 DID have Badelt.
In that case, I'd assume "Death Camp" was always sans Badelt and that the version that opens Disc 1 is just a different take than the one which opens Disc 2.
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There are some curiosities in the track list that will hopefully be answered in the liner notes!
For "Final Showdown", the "Film Mix" is in the main program while the album mix is on disc 2. Yet for "Cerebro" and "Magneto Stand Off", the "Film Mix" is on disc 2, while the album mix is in the main program.
For "Death Camp" and "Museum Fight", the "Film Version" is in the main program while the album versions are on disc 2. Yet for "Helicopter Hijack", "Train", "Kelly Dies", "Xavier Falls", "Jean Uses Cerebro", "Land of Tolerance", "The X-Jet", and "Logan Holds Rogue", the "Film Version" is on disc 2 while versions with no parentheticals are in the main program.
I'm sure there is smart and well-informed reasoning behind all these programming decisions, and I can't wait to see what they are!
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There are some curiosities in the track list that will hopefully be answered in the liner notes!
For "Final Showdown", the "Film Mix" is in the main program while the album mix is on disc 2. Yet for "Cerebro" and "Magneto Stand Off", the "Film Mix" is on disc 2, while the album mix is in the main program.
For "Death Camp" and "Museum Fight", the "Film Version" is in the main program while the album versions are on disc 2. Yet for "Helicopter Hijack", "Train", "Kelly Dies", "Xavier Falls", "Jean Uses Cerebro", "Land of Tolerance", "The X-Jet", and "Logan Holds Rogue", the "Film Version" is on disc 2 while versions with no parentheticals are in the main program.
I'm sure there is smart and well-informed reasoning behind all these programming decisions, and I can't wait to see what they are!
Yeah, those parts threw me off too.
The only thing I can guess is Disc 1 is the movie as Kamen would have/did score without Badelt, and that "film versions" of Kamen-only music in Disc 1 are just there to help it match up to the movie as much as possible (since the film wasn't actually Kamen-only), while the "album versions" on Disc 2 are still Kamen-only music, but as scored prior to being edited into "film version" and therefore more difficult to sync up to the movie.
So in theory you would be able to take Disc 1 and play it roughly in sync with the movie.
Which would leave "Additional Music" as essentially the music editor's version of the score with all the Badelt overdubs.
Basically:
Disc 1 - Kamen-only music: matched to film as much as possible
Disc 2 "Album" - Kamen-only music: in "album" format before being edited for the film
Disc 2b "Additional" - Kamen music with Badelt overdubs: as edited and presented in the film release
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May 11, 2021 - 12:13 PM
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LeHah
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If I had to guess, disc 1 is as Kamen wrote it, disc 2 contains the overdubs/remixes that were done for the film.
That's how I'm interpreting it too. Definitely eager to read the liner notes!
Something to keep in mind: the movie had a crushing post-production schedule. It was originally slated for Christmas 2000 when FOX decided to make it a Summer 2000 tentpole event, so they literally had five or six months struck from their calendar to really perfect everything. I can't remember if it was this one or X2 that Bryan Singer had a meltdown on - but I want to say it was this because FOX handed him the bag of shit in terms of schedule changes. It also explains why things like SFX are a little wonky.
Kamen was already ill by this point, so it could very well be that he didn't feel well enough ... or it could be a schedule conflict. Or maybe he brought on Badelt for help (though I sorta remember Laura Donner saying they wanted more techno because "thats what the kids like" or something?) or maybe because of the sudden fast track, he couldn't bang out material / changes quick enough. This was the guy who hired 14 arrangers and orchestrators for Robin Hood and shared credit with Orbital on Event Horizon, after all - it wouldn't be unusual for him to ask for help. He was nothing if not extremely collaborative.
So the Cerebro "Film Mix" sample has what appears to be SFX, so it seems like some tracks will have SFX?
Going by that sample, it doesnt sound like SFX but digital sampling. To me, anyway.
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So the Cerebro "Film Mix" sample has what appears to be SFX, so it seems like some tracks will have SFX?
That's not movie sound effects, that is part of the music.
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Ugh, the years are going by so fast.
I remember the excitement of seeing it in the cinema. 
