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 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

It doesn't matter if the film was delayed.
It's just the fact that this label deigned to release something on CD after many years.
And they used to release such great scores on CD...


I hear you, but I still won't believe it until I'm holding a disc in my hands.

The film was delayed so much that I expect the young stars to be in their 30s at the premiere.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I just had a listen to all the samples and it sounds nice. Lots of quiet atmospherics, but there is an orchestra in there.

I need to hear the entire score before commenting on how much I like it. But i'm not expecting to hear one of his better scores, however it sounds like it could be a nice new entry in the Newman catalogue at least. I'll take what I can get!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I have now heard the entire score (it's released/uploaded in some countries in the world where it's friday), and I actually didn't like it that much, even if it's still my favorite film score of the year so far. Perhaps too much heavy on the atmospherics in much of the score (although it gets better towards the end of the album), and not of the most interesting kind (even for me as a massive Newman fan), but at least there are a few highlight tracks to cull from the score. It's not bad (and it's certainly better than his co-authored recent work) - far from, but it's still far from his masterpiece scores. I don't think that this is an essential Newman score or anything, far from, but it will be worth exploring for Newman fans. Just as I expected in other words. But given some of the buzz of the score, i'm actually disappointed.

I think that I liked his score for Elemental more than this one. Outside of a few highlight tracks, I doubt that I will be revisiting this score much going forward. There are so many other Newman scores that I like better. I didn't love this score, but still enjoyed exploring it.

I very much doubt that this one will be nominated for an Oscar. I'll be shocked if it is.

Anyway, i'm looking forward to his next work and always hope it'll be better than his last one.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"I very much doubt that this one will be nominated for an Oscar"
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I dunno, it's got a chance.
The Jewish angle is usually a bulls-eye for Hollywood and Glory.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

I suspect it’s only shot for a nomination is for Newman. I don’t feel like there are a lot of major score contenders this year.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

I had a second listen to the score and I liked it a bit more this time around even if my general thoughts on it are the same. A bit too long album too, which is quite rare for Newman.

Yeah, it doesn't feel like there are that many major score contenders this year.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

While I have only seen the trailer, I hope they explain how Helen Mirren could have possibly been a pre-teen/teen in WWII and not be at least 85 years old.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I listened to the score, and I quite like it. But I'm often in the tank for Newman (really, any Newman), and I am here as well.

The music has a lot of what I love about modern Thomas Newman and it's a very easy listen (despite its length). I grew to really love Elemental, but I didn't think much of it on the first listen or two. I never liked A Man Called Otto, which Newman did with White Bird's director AFTER this movie was completed.

By contrast, I liked White Bird immediately. It's got a lot of good melodies, and it's not as dry as, like, The Little Things or Operation Mincemeat, which barely left any impression on me at all.

I would be shocked if this got an Oscar nomination for anything, including music. The film has been delayed, delayed, delayed so many times, and then kind of dumped without a lot of fanfare. I don't know what the reviews are like, but they don't delay a film that many times because it's "too good to release."

I think in order to get a nomination, you've got to be part of a project that people remember, and which is getting attention a lot of awards attention in other departments as well. I suspect that won't be the case with White Bird, ultimately, but who knows? I've been wrong plenty of times, and stranger things have happened.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Newman is enough of a name that it could easily get shortlisted. I haven't started to "do the math" on what the likely shortlist scores are this year. It seems like lately they've been making a concerted effort to include female composers and, surprisingly, horror scores (Candyman, The Invisible Man).

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2024 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Suddenly Amazon is no longer listing a CD option for White Bird. Aargh!

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   Hadrian   (Member)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DBQXPJ6B?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There are some good things in this score -- shades of the slow, shimmering, magical textures that only T. Newman can do so well, and similar to TOLKIEN from a few years ago (although that score is on a much higher level). Also a little bit of those SHAWSHANK string chords that he also does well, especially towards the end of the album.

But it also falls into some of his usual traps, like having many short tracks that are over before they've properly settled. And the album is much, much too long for the type of music on display. And the narrative flow seems confused.

I've tried to whittle it down to make it work better. Down to 40 minutes out of the 70+ something, and since the title track is the perfect album ender, I put the "Songbird" track earlier in the album. This will have to do for now.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   Jimmyt76   (Member)

I am loving listening to this, after such a long wait - and I'm a bit disappointed that people seem a bit disappointed with it! I do agree that the length of the album is the issue. Just like that 10-minute track on the '1917' album, the 8 minutes of 'Stay very quiet run very fast' just don't seem necessary to have on record outside of the film. (I never thought I'd vouch for less Thomas Newman...)

However - the beautiful parts of this really are beautiful, and it's that magical Newman sound. I love it... you just need to wade through some rumblings to get to it.

What's really disappointing is that it looks like the CD release is a bit iffy. I pre-ordered on Amazon a long time ago and it still says the CD will arrive next week.. but I notice Amazon is no longer a direct seller on the day of 'release'. Maybe they only ordered stock to pre-order demand?? I'll be upset but not surprised if they end up cancelling my order. Fingers crossed though.. !

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2024 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Other Amazon sellers ostensibly are carrying the CD so I ordered from one of them as well just to be safe

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2024 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   laurent   (Member)

Amazon >>> Temporarily out of stock.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

Amazon >>> Temporarily out of stock.

I got an email from Amazon saying it’s delayed. Im not concerned. If it was available for years and they couldn’t get stock I would be concerned but something just released I’m sure they will receive copies. Amazon has too much buying power.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Amazon >>> Temporarily out of stock.

I got an email from Amazon saying it’s delayed. Im not concerned. If it was available for years and they couldn’t get stock I would be concerned but something just released I’m sure they will receive copies. Amazon has too much buying power.


Yeah, like there were no copies of Don't be Afraid of the Dark or Zoolander II available to pre-order and then never arrived?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I ordered it from eBay (All Your Music) last week and I got an email yesterday saying the CD had been despatched, so I'd like to think a CD does exist.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've been relistening to the score in my above programme, and it really makes the whole thing come to life in a whole other way. Not saying my whittle is the "correct" one, but I urge people to make their own playlists of this once they get it.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2024 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

Amazon just emailed me a new estimated delivery date of December 23. frown

 
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