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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

You can already tell how it sounds via the samples on Varese's site, or any whole tracks you want on your streaming service of choice

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/la-confidential-jerry-goldsmith/iijv4rgqt677a
https://us.7digital.com/artist/jerry-goldsmith/release/la-confidential-original-motion-picture-score-deluxe-edition-25263388
https://music.apple.com/us/album/l-a-confidential-original-motion-picture-score/1653033403
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC8BO3AYlj5ybalEsAW81xzlskQ0eqaRw
https://open.spotify.com/album/2agAQF2mbwXbuEjWPesKQB?si=xyBaOm_lSuWeJSiKg_7Eow
https://soundcloud.com/jerry-goldsmith-official/sets/l-a-confidential-original

Not to mention that Air Force One was recorded, mixed, and edited by Bruce Botnik and mastered by Chas Ferry for an album produced by Cary Mansfield and Bryon Davis

While this was also recorded by Botnik, but is then edited by Neil Bulk and mastered by Mike Matessino for an album produced by Mike Matessino and Neil Bulk

So there isn't any overlap in the production team between those two releases here, even though they are released by the same label.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Ordered. Hopefully this will sound better than Air Force One.

Mike Mattesino did this, so I imagine it will.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Just listened to it. It's worth to get this expansion if you really like the score. The expanded re-release makes the score grittier, darker, with a bit more bite. It's not a substantially new revelation, but it puts a new shine on the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   discovery.2001   (Member)

I wonder if I order it, will I actually get it?

Still waiting on my Rudy CD that I ordered on September 17th, and have received nothing. They have my money though.

Too bad their customer service sucks.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Are we not allowed to like this movie anymore because of Kevin Spacey?

Will the film never get a 4k UHD release because of Kevin Spacey?

Will Spacey's face be digitally replaced at some time in the future because of Kevin Spacey?

Thank goodness we still have CHINATOWN.

Oh ...




Spacey was on the cover? I didn't notice. wink
Thank goodness we have fan artists.
Oh, and I hate the selective morality brigade.


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I'd buy the Story Of A Woman soundtrack on CD if they stuck a picture of Fred & Rose West in a passionate embrace with Jeffrey Dahmer on the cover.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Just listened to it. It's worth to get this expansion if you really like the score. The expanded re-release makes the score grittier, darker, with a bit more bite.

As I observed to Tim Greiving when we recorded a Soundtrack Spotlight podcast earlier today, that's not only because of the new cues -- it's because some of the cues familiar from the old album are actually more stripped down and gritty than their album counterparts (which were probably Goldsmith's originals before he was requested to simplify them).

Listen to the opening 40 seconds or so of Bloody Christmas for a great example. On the album there's interesting stuff Goldsmith is doing on brass and strings. But I guess it was too "busy" sounding for Curtis Hanson, because in the film itself (and in the 45.5 minute film version program on this release), the dominant element in the score for those 40 seconds is the sinister synth pulse. It leaves a very different impression, IMO, even if it's subtle.

I'm really glad Neil Bulk and Mike Mattesino opted to include the full original album program here, because of these differences. I'll probably edit my own preferred listening experience of the score combining my favorite versions of cues from each source.... for example I'll take "Questions" from the album because it has a cool opening 20 seconds which isn't present in the film, but I'll likely use the film version of the climactic "Shootout" cue because it's almost half a minute longer in the film.

I hope if Fierce Creatures ever gets a Deluxe Edition some day it gets similar treatment: complete score as recorded for the film first, followed by the unique original album (for which Goldsmith newly recorded extended versions of several cues) second.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   ClaytonMG   (Member)

Geez, am I the only one that actually likes this artwork? It feels fitting for the movie to me.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

In Canada here and shipping for the last two discs (Rudy, 3 o clock high) were surprisingly fast. I got email updates right up until it landed in my mailbox. Much faster delivery now.

Glad to hear LA sounds good.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Geez, am I the only one that actually likes this artwork? It feels fitting for the movie to me.

I like it too. Simple and classy.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I love that cue with Russell searching underneath the house. That’s one of the most frightening things he’s ever written in my opinion I remember watching that in the theater and being absolutely terrified of what he would find and you don’t really see much. It’s really the music that’s creating all that horror.

If Goldsmith had scored an Alien movie in the 90s, I imagine this is what it would’ve sounded like.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Just listened to it. It's worth to get this expansion if you really like the score. The expanded re-release makes the score grittier, darker, with a bit more bite.

As I observed to Tim Greiving when we recorded a Soundtrack Spotlight podcast earlier today, that's not only because of the new cues -- it's because some of the cues familiar from the old album are actually more stripped down and gritty than their album counterparts (which were probably Goldsmith's originals before he was requested to simplify them).

Listen to the opening 40 seconds or so of Bloody Christmas for a great example. On the album there's interesting stuff Goldsmith is doing on brass and strings. But I guess it was too "busy" sounding for Curtis Hanson, because in the film itself (and in the 45.5 minute film version program on this release), the dominant element in the score for those 40 seconds is the sinister synth pulse. It leaves a very different impression, IMO, even if it's subtle.

I'm really glad Neil Bulk and Mike Mattesino opted to include the full original album program here, because of these differences. I'll probably edit my own preferred listening experience of the score combining my favorite versions of cues from each source.... for example I'll take "Questions" from the album because it has a cool opening 20 seconds which isn't present in the film, but I'll likely use the film version of the climactic "Shootout" cue because it's almost half a minute longer in the film.

I hope if Fierce Creatures ever gets a Deluxe Edition some day it gets similar treatment: complete score as recorded for the film first, followed by the unique original album (for which Goldsmith newly recorded extended versions of several cues) second.

Yavar


The opening of "Questions" is the cue "The Gift" which is second in one of the combo cues from this release, for some reason.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

The opening of "Questions" is the cue "The Gift" which is second in one of the combo cues from this release, for some reason.

The track "Rats / A Gift" is a combination of cues 10m1 and 10m2, so it's presented chronologically and I didn't want a 20 second cue by itself if it could be avoided.

On the original album "Questions" is a combination of cues 10m2 and 7m1. The take of 7m1 differs on the album with the version selected for the film.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Does the physical version have notes like what you just wrote? I was wondering what those two unused cues in track 2 were all about.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Nothing like that in the booklet.

According to my notes only "The Deal" portion is unused. It's cue 3m1.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Nothing like that in the booklet.

According to my notes only "The Deal" portion is unused. It's cue 3m1.


I'll have to go back and listen again. I thought it was three separate cues in one, starting with the Stens turning in his badge and then two cues that have been a mystery to us all for years put together.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

"The Deal" starts around :16 and plays until the end.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

What's in the "Susan Lefferts" album track after the "Susan Lefferts" film cue?

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

An alternate take of "False Information."

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Thanks!

 
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