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For me it's less about the $10 and more about the redundancy. It's why I won't be getting this (granted, I never got the original, but did get SM2).
But 'includes the original album' has been a thorn in my side for years now so I imagine even if a proper new Star Wars release eventually comes out I'll have to skip those too...
You understand that including the original album is often a licensing requirement for getting the score re-released at all, right?
Yes, that's really ridiculous, especially as these releases would not necessarily become cheaper by not including the original album. It's probably more like: we have to sell this release at $30.- to make this worthwile, so me might as well include some more stuff to make up for it.
If the inclusion of the original album is pure redundancy, it may not be necessary to include it, but it sure doesn't bother me in any way. In fact, I don't even see why it would bother anyone? On the other hand, if there are different album takes or edits, the original album is always welcome. I sure did not think the original LP cut of BOYS FROM BRAZIL was redundant, as it is a significantly different listening experience.
There were those who complained when soundtracks were released that the original album was not included, now that they often are, people complain that they are included? I would say the way this stuff is released nowadays should just about make anyone happy. Soundtrack CDs cost much less now than they did 20-30 years ago (actual prices are about the same, but considering inflation, they cost clearly less), they often contain the complete score, and alternates, and the original album. So completionists, academics, album fetishists, nostalgics, C&C fanatics... just about everyone should be happy.
Sometimes, a shorter version of the score might also be a nice entry into the score. I did not have SLEEPY HOLLOW before the 4CD Intrada set, and the first thing I actually listened to was the original album.
In any case, I don't have the original SPIDER MAN release, so I will get this for sure.
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I was actually hoping for the HERO song to be released also - in my personal playlist it replaces Elfman's end title as the closing track
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For me it's less about the $10 and more about the redundancy. It's why I won't be getting this (granted, I never got the original, but did get SM2).
But 'includes the original album' has been a thorn in my side for years now so I imagine even if a proper new Star Wars release eventually comes out I'll have to skip those too...
You understand that including the original album is often a licensing requirement for getting the score re-released at all, right?
I get why it's there (composer's wish, licensing requirement, etc), and I won't throw a tantrum over it like some here, but that still doesn't mean I have to like it.
If you are in Europe, this hobby is already crazy expensive, so an extra $10 (or €14 based on prices at Music Box) is indeed a bit annoying. And with the original album, this gets bumped up from a 2 to a 3 disc release, taking up extra shelf space. I know, just a minor inconvenience but I don't really like those big jewel cases.
Still, all of these are small quibbles and I'm still glad this score got an expended release and I can't wait to spin it
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For me it's less about the $10 and more about the redundancy. It's why I won't be getting this (granted, I never got the original, but did get SM2).
But 'includes the original album' has been a thorn in my side for years now so I imagine even if a proper new Star Wars release eventually comes out I'll have to skip those too...
You understand that including the original album is often a licensing requirement for getting the score re-released at all, right?
I get why it's there (composer's wish, licensing requirement, etc), and I won't throw a tantrum over it like some here, but that still doesn't mean I have to like it.
If you are in Europe, this hobby is already crazy expensive, so an extra $10 (or €14 based on prices at Music Box) is indeed a bit annoying. And with the original album, this gets bumped up from a 2 to a 3 disc release, taking up extra shelf space. I know, just a minor inconvenience but I don't really like those big jewel cases.
Still, all of these are small quibbles and I'm still glad this score got an expended release and I can't wait to spin it
Exactly, buying overseas is QUITE expensive. I can't afford 40 euros for a 3 cd set when one of them is redudant. You have to sum shipping costs which is usually 15 euros minimum, that's crazy price!
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I think the "to include the original album or not" question is purely a case by case matter, and neither solution bothers me, honestly. There have been many cases in recent years where although I'm happy to have the expanded score, I realize that the album presentation was a better listen and that's the one I mostly stick with. There have been others where I never go back to the OST at all.
If Spider-Man were only 2 CDs and did NOT include the original score album presentation, I still would have been first in line to order it, and I still would have paid 39.99 plus shipping to get it. I rip everything and listen to it that way, so I won't have to deal with the painstaking hardship of having to take one CD out and put the next one in when I listen to this release. Having the complete score split over two discs truly does not affect my life in any meaningful way whatsoever. And you know... I might decide that 79 minutes is way too long of a listen for this score, and might lean on the remastered OST most of the time anyway.
In the case of new LLL The Godfather set, it looks like they've _recreated_ the OST using their new pristine elements, which is amazing (the original CD sounds like junk and I will happily never play it again!). It's possible that this OST presentation is the BEST presentation of this score... if so, I'll be happy to have it sounding so good. If I find the prefer the complete score presentation, then I'll happily listen to that instead. In any case, they got my 29.99, and it looks like they've covered all the bases.
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How this group constantly loses perspective, I don't understand. This release could sell 75% of its run to people who were toddlers when SPIDER-MAN was released theatrically. The film is seminal for people in their 20s and 30s, none likely to have ever held the SONY release in their hands. Now, this is all dependent on how well this release is marketed to that crowd. If it were released on vinyl, it would be above-the-fold homepage news like Mondo enjoys. Let's hope word trickles out, and the people that grew up with SPIDER-MAN are interested in owning a hunk of plastic with music on it—and have the money to buy it.
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Ii bought it - because I have the money
don't have money? - get a job or do not buy but stop whining - if you want something get it and if not, then you don't want it so badly
IN ANY CASE - STOP WHINING
I am sick of this culture with people complaing about old albums - rather this than a second CD like the TOMBSTONE disc 2 with 16 minutes of music
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I bought it - because I have the money
don't have money? - get a job or do not buy but stop whining - if you want something get it and if not, then you don't want it so badly
IN ANY CASE - STOP WHINING
I am sick of this culture with people complaing about old album included on releases - rather this than a second CD like the TOMBSTONE disc 2 with 16 minutes of music
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And not to pin this entirely on one person's wishes, MV, Dan and I discussed this quite a bit and we realized there was no way to avoid going to three CDs. We wanted to include everything we had on this set.
I hope everyone enjoys the new album. We're all pleased with it.
I hope for no cross-combined cues unless they appear like that in the film 
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