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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

• A true-stereo version of the main and end titles, with soprano Lulie Jean Norman.

The other things were not available when the box was produced.


That track is an edit I made which was derived from the main and end titles found on season 3, disc 1 of the 15-CD set (Spectre of the Gun/The Paradise Syndrome). As mentioned earlier in this thread, that was recorded in 3-track split mono. It's not really a stereo image but it was panned and mixed to be stereo-ish.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


I agree, it is indeed hilarious that of all the passionate humans who put together the seventeen hour set of music from this series, they neglected to hire a clairvoyant to foresee that better sources would later be discovered for library cues, and that, unlike the rest of us, they are imperfect beings and made one error when assembling this massive set.
It is a shame that the late night shows are dark due to the writers strike, because otherwise I would fax this hilarious material to Jimmy Fallon.





The above is an excellent example of the kind of AI-generated text that has led human writers to go on strike, for fear of being replaced by AI technology. One can instantly spot AI text because, despite AI's speed of "thought" and wide-ranging potential, it has so far failed miserably to incorporate any content remotely resembling genuine humor. Google says it is working on trying to help AI develop a sense of humor and also an ability to produce meaningful sarcasm, but as you can see from the latest example above, these are very early days.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


The above is an excellent example of the kind of AI-generated text that has led human writers to go on strike, for fear of being replaced by AI technology. One can instantly spot AI text because, despite AI's speed of "thought" and wide-ranging potential, it has so far failed miserably to incorporate any content remotely resembling genuine humor. Google says it is working on trying to help AI develop a sense of humor and also an ability to produce meaningful sarcasm, but as you can see from the latest example above, these are very early days.


While I understand why you might think that AI-generated content lacks a sense of humor, there are some nuances to consider. Comedy and humor are highly subjective and greatly influenced by cultural context, personal experience, and timing, which can make them challenging for AI to master.

it's also true that humor often relies on a shared understanding, context, and subtlety that AI currently struggles with. AI often misses the nuance that comes so naturally to humans, including elements like sarcasm or witty banter.

That is the joke. Personally, I think it's funny you would mention AI taking over people's jobs yet refuse to support a record label that continues to pursue sources that yield better quality results, even if their previous releases were stellar. The original Batman (89), Star Trek 15-Disc set, and Die Hard were all releases I bought on day one. Their remastered releases? Same story.

Granted you could argue that I'm being a hypocrite since I won't be buying the 1701 collection. This decision is not out of spite, but simply because everything that will be released on these CDs will be the same content that is present on the 15-Disc set and the 50th Anniversary Collection. At the same time, I am SO HAPPY that everyone who missed out on both sets will be able to get a huge portion of the music through La-La Land's new releases. Who knows? Maybe GNP will release the remastered music in the future and than everyone will get the chance to have it all legit. They've done it before.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Based on the lack of humor by a large swath of FSM members Ive come to the conclusion most FSM members are A.I's.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2023 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

A.I. = Akira Ifukube

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Good friend of mine got their copy in the other day and he noticed something peculiar on the spine. It looks like all of these volumes combined will form an image, for this case being the Starfleet Delta. However, it's not the 'Original Series' Delta, but the 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' delta shield with a circle behind it.

Why is this set using designs that weren't created till the movies?

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2023 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

I'm sure the answer is no, but is there any chance this will be made available as a hi-res download?

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


I'm sure the answer is no


After doing some research, I have discovered that yes. La-La Land did not intend to use the TMP Delta on the spine artwork. But they did. And I believe I know why the art team made that mistake.

I did a Google search on Delta insignias and saw something interesting. A "Star Trek: The Original Series Delta Personalized Double-Sided Ornament". But it's not the Original Series Delta. It's Star Trek: The Motion Picture's Delta. The 'original series delta' is even in the URL. And if you look at the design of the TMP Delta on the ornament, it's pretty much the same design as the one on this release's spine.

Comparison:


So there you have it. A triple-stacked set of mistakes that started with an incorrectly named Christmas Ornament. I don't think we can blame AI for this one.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

After doing some research, I have discovered that yes. La-La Land did not intend to use the TMP Delta on the spine artwork.


For people who want the music, this doesn't seem like a deal breaker. I'm sure it's going to look beautiful on a CD shelf.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)


I'm sure the answer is no


After doing some research, I have discovered that yes. La-La Land did not intend to use the TMP Delta on the spine artwork. But they did. And I believe I know why the art team made that mistake.

I did a Google search on Delta insignias and saw something interesting. A "Star Trek: The Original Series Delta Personalized Double-Sided Ornament". But it's not the Original Series Delta. It's Star Trek: The Motion Picture's Delta. The 'original series delta' is even in the URL. And if you look at the design of the TMP Delta on the ornament, it's pretty much the same design as the one on this release's spine.

Comparison:


So there you have it. A triple-stacked set of mistakes that started with an incorrectly named Christmas Ornament. I don't think we can blame AI for this one.


In the grand scheme of things I dont think this matters. Still a great release.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Gone2Disneyland   (Member)


I'm sure the answer is no


After doing some research, I have discovered that yes. La-La Land did not intend to use the TMP Delta on the spine artwork. But they did. And I believe I know why the art team made that mistake.

I did a Google search on Delta insignias and saw something interesting. A "Star Trek: The Original Series Delta Personalized Double-Sided Ornament". But it's not the Original Series Delta. It's Star Trek: The Motion Picture's Delta. The 'original series delta' is even in the URL. And if you look at the design of the TMP Delta on the ornament, it's pretty much the same design as the one on this release's spine.

Comparison:


So there you have it. A triple-stacked set of mistakes that started with an incorrectly named Christmas Ornament. I don't think we can blame AI for this one.


Nice find. Whether or not your speculation that La La Land Record's art team was in error here, I will say as someone with experience providing artwork for a Star Trek licensee, the replies they receive and share with me from CBS licensing to get approvals can at times be rather … fascinating. ::eyeroll::

Personally, like others have shared, this "incorrect" logo on the spine is no deal breaker for me. As Spock told Saavik, "Nobody's perfect." razz

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


For people who want the music, this doesn't seem like a deal breaker.


In the grand scheme of things I dont think this matters.


And who's calling it a deal breaker? It wasn't but a few days ago I was praising this new collection for allowing those who missed out on both the 15-disc set and the 50th Anniversary set to have another chance at owning the music. I just find it funny that they're using artwork from a Christmas ornament based on a completely different product. I'm just glad one here has called for a total boycott of this collection out of sarcasm.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2023 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

As long as Spock isn’t missing any teeth.

 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2023 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Manakin Skywalker   (Member)

Hey MV, quick idea I was thinking about while on the John yesterday...

I know that the "The Final Frontier" set was meant to be the end of the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT releases (due to cost I think it was?) What if, instead of releasing a single TNG or DS9 (etc. etc.) set every year or so, releasing a 4-disc bundle of all four of the TNG-era shows every year or two, much like the TFF set from last year?

First off, more fan requests would certainly mean more people interested in purchasing each new set. And another thing is that, while some individuals perhaps only purchase sets from specific shows (say TNG for instance), this being a bundle I imagine would mean more people buying each set. For example, I'm not very big on Enterprise personally, so I've largely avoided the ENT sets; however, I of course gobbled up last year's set because it included music from
the other shows (and in fact, listening to the ENT disc made me realize I was missing out on some really great music!) So rather than 4-discs of, say, DS9 music every ~4-5 years, this would mean 1 disc of DS9 music approximately every single year (or whatever the interval would be)!

I'm not businessman, so I don't know how well this idea would work, or if you guys have already given it thought before, but to me it sounds like the optimal way to keep releasing music from these shows that fan are hoping for, while at the same time possibly upping the number of buyers per set, and obviously drastically lessening the amount of time for music from each show to be released.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2023 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

So did anyone here get this? Any thoughts?

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2023 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

The box set is one of my most prized score possessions of all-time (probably only matched by the SW box and anthology releases from '93 and '97, the Indy box set from 2008 and the Batman and Batman Returns sets). Being the huge Classic Trek nut that I am, I may end up picking these up.

But glad folks who never got the box set will have a shot at collecting all the great classic Trek scores!

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2023 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

…If you have any more questions regarding STAR TREK ONLY please feel free to ask away in this thread. If you start asking questions in this thread about other properties other than TREK I will personally banish you to Ceti Alpha V. smile

LLAP

MV


This *IS* Ceti Alpha Five!!!

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2023 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Captain_Kaos   (Member)

I can't resist: any news about "It Takes A Thief", the 1966 "Batman"- show, "The Rockford-Files", "Magnum, p.i.", "The A-Team", "Airwolf", "Miami Vice" & "MacGyver"? smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2023 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   jkruppa   (Member)

I'm sure the answer is no

Btw, you quoted member jkruppa ("answer is no") who was talking about download versions (presumably audio), not your post.


Yes, thanks. I'd still like to know the answer!

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2023 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

But seriously, I really like the formatting of Episode # recorded date • Aired # broadcast date
The out of sequence airing of TOS has always been difficult to deal with but this gives me an idea of a E06A01 kind of numbering system.

 
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