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Jun 18, 2024 - 4:46 AM
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Thor
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I'm in the same boat as everyone else above. Worse off, even, as I can't even afford a normal, limited edition CD (like the recent SUGARLAND EXPRESS). So as much as I would have loved to have these on my shelf, I can never afford them (lest I win the lottery, and I don't play).
I'm curious if Mr. Martin could say something about the process, though. Here in Norway, at least, you can apply for various funds if you're going to write a book (fiction or non-fiction alike). If you're granted one, it will cover costs while you toil away on research, writing and beyond. Most people I know that have written books, including self-published ones, have had some kind of financial security in-base BEFORE they start working, and then obviously also receiving some kind of percentage of the sale. No one would put all the "salary", if you will, in the sales alone by jacking up the price to astronomical heights. That just wouldn't be feasible in the long run.
But anyways, I don't know anything about the process in this particular case, so just rattling off random thoughts.
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Jun 19, 2024 - 3:18 AM
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It's also not the only book out there to budget for. We're coming off of the Jerry Kickstarter, there's the upcoming Williams book by Tim Grieving, and Jeff Bond's Music of Star Trek. That's a lot of reading. I'm having to also weigh whether I'd rather pick up some more Horner expansions from my wishlist and learn about the man through his music instead of through the book. If there was a way to get this to the US for $100 shipped, I'd have done it, and even that is a stretch.
My fear is that the passion that went into this will only be enjoyed by a very select few, and like the first Horner Kickstarter, was too big a bite to chew.
I haven't financed any of these Kickstarters; film music CD labels and book publishers aren't charities, they don't benefit the homeless. If it's a CD I want, I'll buy it, if funds allow, after the ones who ponied up the money to get their name in the booklet, get theirs first. But all these books, despite film music being a favourite subject (not new scores though), are just impossible. I have on my shelves a number of traditionally published film music books from over the years but they won't be joined with more, any time soon.
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I haven't financed any of these Kickstarters; film music CD labels and book publishers aren't charities, they don't benefit the homeless.
Does that mean you would be happy to contribute to a kickstarter if it was for, say, to provide homeless people with a rechargable/ portable cd player. Then they could play the cds you haven't contributed to, among others?
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Very altruistic of you , old bean.
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I'd be in for a condensed summary/compilation version of the entire set. Unfortunately I can't say I'm enough of a fan of any artist or historical figure to invest both the money and time spent reading into this level of a project.
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Jun 19, 2024 - 7:48 AM
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Howard L
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I'm curious if Mr. Martin could say something about the process, though. Here in Norway, at least, you can apply for various funds if you're going to write a book (fiction or non-fiction alike). If you're granted one, it will cover costs while you toil away on research, writing and beyond. Most people I know that have written books, including self-published ones, have had some kind of financial security in-base BEFORE they start working, and then obviously also receiving some kind of percentage of the sale. No one would put all the "salary", if you will, in the sales alone by jacking up the price to astronomical heights. That just wouldn't be feasible in the long run.
But anyways, I don't know anything about the process in this particular case, so just rattling off random thoughts.
Appreciate this reply as well as the other many regarding cost. I’m at both ends right now as a film music aficionado and late budding author wearing a cardboard belt. Have been working on a [mostly sports] memoir for over the past year and a half in a semi-retired situation. Hope to be completed by end of August. Sure would love it to sell, of course, but recognize its niche status. So I understand M. Martin’s high price as I’ve thought about how much I’d like to at least recoup what I’ve “invested” the past eighteen months. That would require a high price though not nearly as high as what’s going down here (I hope). And if my damn thing should actually reap dream fruitage then the price could drop to more conventional levels. What do I know about publishing, I’m making all this up as I go along. Never done anything remotely like it before.
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Jun 19, 2024 - 8:02 AM
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Kentishsax
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Appreciate this reply as well as the other many regarding cost. I’m at both ends right now as a film music aficionado and late budding author. Have been working on a [mostly sports] memoir for over the past year and a half in a semi-retired situation. Hope to be completed by end of August. Sure would love it to sell, of course, but recognize its niche status. So I understand M. Martin’s high price as I’ve thought about how much I’d like to at least recoup what I’ve “invested” the past eighteen months. That would require a high price though not nearly as high as what’s going down here (I hope). And if my damn thing should actually reap dream fruitage then the price could drop to more conventional levels. What do I know about publishing, I’m making all this up as I go along, never done anything remotely like it before.
I don't know why a traditional publisher hasn't picked this up or did the author always intend to handle it himself?
The cheaper option would be self publishing in hardback, paperback or Ebook via Amazon. Whilst my non fiction has been professionally published, my fiction, after getting rejected by the BBC (a radio play) and a couple of science fiction magazines, when there were more real life printed magazines around, I went the self publishing route for my short story collection, via Amazon print on demand for paperback and hardback (and Ebook), you can set your own price and I priced my book low purposely. Mind you, if the Horner book (s) contain copyrighted material, such as photos and score excerpts, the author or publisher would have to pay for the rights.
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Jun 20, 2024 - 9:29 AM
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PatrickB
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Congratulations to the author Martin (again a French!, as there are many Horner fans in France, who even managed to to lead a fanzine/magazine).
Of course a good idea to propose two editions in French and in English...
Nice item, buiolt with great care, but definetely too expensive for me (as a non-Horner fan), after all the numerous books in English and French about Goldsmith, Williams, the one by Cosma, and the Nicolai in italian, and so on.
Anyway, very well done: a book leaves a special trace, unforgettable.
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I can't wait to read this! Horner was my favorite film composers so it will be nice to learn more about him. Well done J.B.M.!
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