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 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Marko   (Member)



Great, go take her down!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   reecardov   (Member)

Wow! Never ceases to amaze me how completely brazen these assholes are about sharing music in this fashion. Lukas, I can imagine how devastated you are. For what it's worth, I've got your back. We really do love you and your hard work. Keep your chin up!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

They have actually deleted Lukas's post.


I for one will stick by FSM and offer any help I can. I don't think starting a flame war is the best idea, but perhaps joining to start discussions on this wouldn't be such a bad idea. You know, instead of insulting them, turn them into true believers.


Weirder things have happened.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

The really disturbing thing for me is that so many people don't even seem to realize they are doing anything wrong. The whole piracy thing has been brought to a point where people think it's normal to just get all the stuff for free...

Yep. I don't really know how many of my friends pirate music, but a number of them download pirated movies, and don't seem to think it's illegal. I tell them it is, and they insist, no, it's not. I say that for every site like Hulu that is operated legally through ads or whatever, there are hundreds or thousands that are pirated; that if you're getting a movie for free while it's still in theaters, or downloading it from a sketchy-looking site that scares your anti-virus software, there's a roughly 100% chance that what you're doing is illegal. And they just don't listen. Because apparently not being able to afford something legally is sufficient justification for doing it illegally.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

THEY MESSED WITH THE WRONG JEW.

Look how quickly I was able to get this information.

Apparently the owner is named Sarah. This is her Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/sarahgogo

Her email is ender@tds.net

Proof that Sarah is the right woman:
http://forums.rpgamers.net/showthread.php?t=687
http://forums.ffshrine.org/members/sarah-4
http://wiki.comjuice.com/browse/site/ae-ffshrine.org-220748.html

She is going down.

Please email her and tell her either Sarah or Lukas is getting a new line of work.
And I have DECIDED: It will not be me.

Lukas


Thanks for the info, love the last bit. It's spam time!

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Looks like the Facebook page is already down. Can that be right?

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

The thread is called "Music that may not be posted for legal reasons". Please, chime in now after mine.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/music-may-not-posted-legal-reasons-49829/5.html#post1560866

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I wonder how many of them are members here? It's not unthinkable or impossible.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I registered on that despicable site and will post if they ever send me the log in information -- which hasn't happened thus far.

It's a pretty low blow -- and I understand how devastating it is to see a labor of love treated in this vile manner.

But I hope you know that your CDs are treasured, loved, and really do mean something important in my life. They matter!

Edit: I sent an email to that woman.

Update: My email came back undeliverable.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

We need a rallying cry whenever a group of FSMers is needed for something. How about "Remember the Ron Jones box!"

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

The gall and naivety on display in that thread is sickening.

I work for a print publication that is frequently scanned and pirated online, and it is soul-destroying as well as a financial rot to our small company when this happens. Often, when I've confronted the perpetrators, I've encountered ignorance -- the file-sharers simply have no concept that what they are doing is wrong, or could be harmful, and they feel entitled to take and copy anything.

Then again, there is a contingent that wants to bring down 'the system', screw the consequences. They are like a cancer. With their selfish acts of immediate gratification through theft, the pirates are ensuring that independent distributors will shrivel up and die and only the mega media corporations will survive, pumping out homogenized pap.

I'm sure you have your own legal recourses, Lukas, and I'm glad to see that first link dismantled, but here's the Federal response to this kind of thing, through the U.S. Department of Justice:

Internet Crime Complaint Center (aka IC3)
http://www.ic3.gov

It's a shame the only way to fight fire is with fire, but the perpetrators of this crime deserve what they've got coming to them.

With sympathy,

Joe

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   SCOREMIX   (Member)

Lol....They just removed the link of the Star Trek Box........good work guys...............and the battlle continues...........

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Good luck Lukas.

I hope you'll continue the good work and triumph in the face of this adversity.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Olivier_Lille   (Member)

Yep. This is the culture we live in now. Everything up for grabs with no care or thought about the hard work that went into it, and the expense.

Sadly, I agree. The computer has conditioned an entire generation to think that music, movies and photography should be free.


That is, of course, the generation that does not make a living out of it.
I guess live events is yet still (almost) the only thing that keeps people paying to
see/hear stuff.
People at work look at me like i'm some weird creature when i tell them i do not download movies or music (well, to be true, i did once or twice, but on items that were not otherwise commercially available...)
This is the generation of non-doers sucking the blood out of artistic creation, and yes, most of time they keep saying there's nothing wrong with it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I wonder how many of them are members here? It's not unthinkable or impossible.

Yes, the enemy is within. A few years ago, I was asked to help produce (that is, invest in) a limited edition soundtrack from one of our specialty labels (not FSM). I did. A few weeks after it came out, I did a search to see if anybody was discussing it elsewhere on the net, and found it being offered free on multiple blog sites, including one that I quickly realized was run by a frequent poster here (he even used the same avatar!). I lost money on that investment, and I won't be doing it again. But I didn't lose my shirt, and I knew no legal recourse. That day, they messed with the right Jew. Today, the Maccabees rise again!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   redpenguin   (Member)

We need a rallying cry whenever a group of FSMers is needed for something. How about "Remember the Ron Jones box!"

And while the MP3 thread is closed, their FLAC thread is open.

Roger Feigelson posted this:

"This is Roger Feigelson from Intrada. This isn't even from my label and I find it heartbreaking. The amount of time and effort and $$$ that go into these releases to make it finally available and this happens? That's going to kill the market. These illegal downloads just seal the fate for there being nothing to steal in the future, because who wants to keep on investing in this stuff. I was thinking of doing some of the Dennis McCarthy/Jay Chattaway stuff to complement this set. No way I'm doing that now. This is no different than shoplifting from Best Buy. Just easier to get away with. Hopefully this person will see the light and pull it down."

This is just so disheartening on many levels.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Lukas,
Just wanted to echo what everyone here is saying. Without FSM I would be without dozens of my favorite CDs. You have my full support! I ordered the box set on the day it came out and am eagerly awaiting another fantastic FSM release. Incidentally, I see that Roger from Intrada has chimed in on the Final Fantasy Board in full support of FSM.

An idea: if the set is selling poorly, maybe this could be advertised on Trekmovie.com and Aintitcoolnews, etc... with the caution that if FSM isn't supported by those that love the music, future releases are in serious jeopardy.

Let us know what to do to help.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The thread is called "Music that may not be posted for legal reasons". Please, chime in now after mine.

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/music-may-not-posted-legal-reasons-49829/5.html#post1560866


Sadly I can't as I'm banned now. But, well said.

What I posted before it was removed was:

"I'm disgusted that you guys would watch a fellow fan spend $lots on making this great music legitimately available and then rip him off and gloat about it."

Sadly, the perps won't get to read it. But they need to. In fact, they need to eat those words.

Bastards.

Anyway, good to know our man has (a) a lead; and (b) the determination to win.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Hopefully, if nothing else you've seen the support you have here Lukas. Your loyal fans that would have bought the box set, would still do so. Those leechers would never have parted with their cash anyway. I feel for you though, i really do.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

THEY MESSED WITH THE WRONG JEW.

Look how quickly I was able to get this information.

Apparently the owner is named Sarah. This is her Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/sarahgogo

Her email is ender@tds.net

Proof that Sarah is the right woman:
http://forums.rpgamers.net/showthread.php?t=687
http://forums.ffshrine.org/members/sarah-4
http://wiki.comjuice.com/browse/site/ae-ffshrine.org-220748.html

She is going down.

Please email her and tell her either Sarah or Lukas is getting a new line of work.
And I have DECIDED: It will not be me.

Lukas


Email was bounced back to me.

Neil

 
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