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 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

la la land rocks and kudos to them for how they are handling this situation. those initial reports made it sound like the bonus was going the other way and this new batch of batmans might have something more than the original. was not thrilled at the prospect of a rebuy. so great job la la!

and keep that ds9 excitement building. can't say i ever watched that ST version, though i will support this release since we need a strong seller so enterprise can be next on deck. voyager really should bring up the rear methinks. can't wait for the 19th! any autographs?

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

It's better to have 90% of an OOP album than nothing at all, yes?

Plus, those two missing suites (at least in part) will probably be included on this new set and/or any future volumes.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

In this case the only thing very well “preserved” is the idiocy. What a sad bullshit !

LLL is more interested in preserving the integrity of a few "it's-limited-damnit!" complainers, but not the integrity of the artists' work? Wow... Just wow.

MV, apologize for calling Varese Sarabande lazy now.


 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   SilentRunning   (Member)

Great titles all BUT....I have to say it. DO ALL THESE LABELS think we have hundreds of dollars laying around each month? All this lump sum stuff is such a short time frame is killing me (and I'm sure others too). Just look at what has been released since the beginning of the year. Plus some of this stuff is getting pricey. I mean there is a global recession after all and just the cost of living is way too high to begin with. I love whats going on with all these releases....but too much, too soon. We need a breather or at least a month off to catch our breath and replenish our bank accounts. (This doesn't apply to all you richey riches who have groves of money trees in your backyards). Plus this also hinders ones ability to buy any past titles one may have in your wish list.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

This is very disappointing. I originally missed the Batman release. Why not re-issue it as it originally was? Lukas did it for Superman, Intrada did it for titles. It just doesn't make sense; LLL is more interested in preserving the integrity of a few "it's-limited-damnit!" complainers, but not the integrity of the artists' work? Wow... Just wow.

We cut out two bonus cues -- one was a suite of music Shirley did of various themes to showcase the variety of scores in the show for the producers and the other was a tutorial she made for film music students to showcase the theme. Chances are pretty good these tracks would not have ever seen the light if day if the composer were around during the production of this set. The main body of the original pressing is still contained herein as is the original artwork and liner notes (sans any mention of the bonus cues).

I've been collecting various things since the age of 12 and I wish to honor those customers who purchased the set -- whether it be for the full retail price when the item was initially released or to those who purchased it in the secondary market at a much higher value. They have something special. They have something that truly is a Limited Edition of 3000 units.

To change the artwork or improve the sound or add extra tracks to this second volume would be, more or less, a spit in the face of those original 3000.

I have too much respect for my customers, my product and my word as a business man. Limited edition means limited edition. 'Nuff said. smile

MV


 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   SilentRunning   (Member)

Great titles all BUT....I have to say it. DO ALL THESE LABELS think we have hundreds of dollars laying around each month? All this lump sum stuff is such a short time frame is killing me (and I'm sure others too). Just look at what has been released since the beginning of the year. Plus some of this stuff is getting pricey. I mean there is a global recession after all and just the cost of living is way too high to begin with. I love whats going on with all these releases....but too much, too soon. We need a breather or at least a month off to catch our breath and replenish our bank accounts. (This doesn't apply to all you richey riches who have groves of money trees in your backyards). Plus this also hinders ones ability to buy any past titles one may have in your wish list.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

MV, apologize for calling Varese Sarabande lazy now.

Nope. They were lazy. Intrada should have got the release and done it right. 'Nuff said.

MV




Odd isn't it, that when someone says they don't like the work of one of your designers, as Spymaster did only yesterday (by the way I have no opinion one way or the other about the artist concerned), not only do you call him a "douche bag" with apparent impunity, but he gets a volume of rebuke from the Moderator. Yet you repeatedly calling Varese/Townson "lazy" in various threads is ok here. Like I said, odd.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

To change the artwork or improve the sound or add extra tracks to this second volume would be, more or less, a spit in the face of those original 3000.

I have too much respect for my customers, my product and my word as a business man. Limited edition means limited edition. 'Nuff said. smile

MV


I'm very proud of you for continuing to uphold your ideals MV, well done.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   McMillan & Husband   (Member)

Let's give MV some slack.

He wanted to maintain the integrity of the first edition, so he left off 2 tracks (1 alternate and an interview track).

That is NOT a lazy choice, but a deliberate one.


Well, according to a recent post in one of the threads Chinatown was reissued the way it was because Townson thought that the original album program was the perfect presentation of the score (this was his answer to someone who asked why it was released this way at a recent film music event). A deliberate choice. But, it's Robert Townson and Varese, so it's laziness.

Face it, if it was anyone else, there would have been a lot less complaints ("Oh that's ok, Doug. I trust your judgement and it was your decision to make. Don't worry about all these malcontents, they complain about everything.")

The real sad thing though is that it's not just the film music consumers that whine and complain and verbally trash labels when they don't get exactly the type of release they wanted on the ol' FSM board anymore - soundtrack producers are doing it, too.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Let's give MV some slack.

He wanted to maintain the integrity of the first edition, so he left off 2 tracks (1 alternate and an interview track).

That is NOT a lazy choice, but a deliberate one.


Well, according to a recent post in one of the threads Chinatown was reissued the way it was because Townson thought that the original album program was the perfect presentation of the score (this was his answer to someone who asked why it was released this way at a recent film music event). A deliberate choice. But, it's Robert Townson and Varese, so it's laziness.

Face it, if it was anyone else, there would have been a lot less complaints ("Oh that's ok, Doug. I trust your judgement and it was your decision to make. Don't worry about all these malcontents, they complain about everything.")

The real sad thing though is that it's not just the film music consumers that whine and complain and verbally trash labels when they don't get exactly the type of release they wanted on the ol' FSM board anymore - soundtrack producers are doing it, too.


You ever stop and think that maybe I might have a little insider info? Think about it. smile

MV

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

So it's lazy to reissue a title that you previously had to pay out of the ass to buy? No customer is going to go, "Why yes, I'd rather pay $75 for a used copy of an out-of-print title instead of buying this new copy for $20". That's like going to a Best Buy and paying $100 for an out-of-print copy of The Secret of NIMH (used, no less) instead of paying $10 for a new copy but the old copy supposedly makes you feel better.

There's having the chance to get something you've always wanted and then there's just being greedy. Not allowing a new generation of collectors to enjoy Chinatown is being greedy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

*cough* It must be mandatory to complain about every release now. *cough*

Anyway, getting back on track, I ask anyone and everyone interested in the DS9 set to buy it. I didn't watch and won't be buying the set. However, if this one's a success, I can only hope, hope, HOPE that we'll get a Voyager release. And I hope, hope, HOPE that one will have "Scorpion" on it. And some of Bell's earlier work for the show.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

*cough* It must be mandatory to complain about every release now. *cough*

Anyway, getting back on track, I ask anyone and everyone interested in the DS9 set to buy it. I didn't watch and won't be buying the set. However, if this one's a success, I can only hope, hope, HOPE that we'll get a Voyager release. And I hope, hope, HOPE that one will have "Scorpion" on it. And some of Bell's earlier work for the show.


I'm definitely very interested in the 9 set. I'm a big niner and there was some stellar music in some of the Dominion war episodes which would be great to get on this new set.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

Anyway, getting back on track, I ask anyone and everyone interested in the DS9 set to buy it. I didn't watch and won't be buying the set. However, if this one's a success, I can only hope, hope, HOPE that we'll get a Voyager release. And I hope, hope, HOPE that one will have "Scorpion" on it. And some of Bell's earlier work for the show.

I'm with you my friend. Although I didn't watch Voyager and probably wouldn't buy that set if it was released (although goddamn, it is Star Trek after all!), I'll proudly purchase the upcoming DS9 set if nothing else than to give further ST scores/sets a chance for release (e.g. Voyager). STbig grinS9 was the last ST series I actually watched on TV, and I *loved* it. Even if it was the last ST musical work to be released, my finger would be on the "add to cart" button posthaste!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:28 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

From Facebook:

Batman The Animated Series Volume 2 (abbreviated track listing)

DISC ONE
1. BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES - MAIN TITLE (DANNY ELFMAN)
2-12 BEWARE THE GRAY GHOST - CARL SWANDER JOHNSON
13-30 THE CAT AND THE CLAW, PARTS I and II - HARVEY R. COHEN, WAYNE COSTER, SHIRLEY WALKER
31-39 NOTHING TO FEAR - SHIRLEY WALKER
40-49 HEART OF ICE - TODD HAYEN, SHIRLEY WALKER
50 END CREDITS (extended) (DANNY ELFMAN)

DISC TWO
1 MAIN TITLE (piano version) (DANNY ELFMAN and SHIRLEY WALKER)
2-10 APPOINTMENT IN CRIME ALLEY - STUART V. BALCOMB
11-19 MAD AS A HATTER - HARVEY R. COHEN
20-25 THE STRANGE SECRET OF BRUCE WAYNE - LOLITA RITMANIS
26-34 I'VE GOT BATMAN IN MY BASEMENT - SHIRLEY WALKER, CARLOS RODRIGUEZ
35-49 FEAT OF CLAY, PART I - JEFF ATMAJIAN, SHIRLEY WALKER, CARL SWANDER JOHNSON
50 END CREDITS (alternate beginning) (DANNY ELFMAN)

DISC THREE
1 MAIN TITLE (MIDI version) (DANNY ELFMAN and SHIRLEY WALKER)
2-12 ALMOST GOT 'IM - STUART BALCOMB
13-23 IF YOU'RE SO SMART, WHY AREN'T YOU RICH? - CARLOS RODRIGUEZ
24-40 THE DEMON'S QUEST, PARTS I and II - MICHAEL McCUISTION and HARVEY R. COHEN
41-49 THE LAUGHING FISH - SHIRLEY WALKER
50 END CREDITS (alternate ending) (DANNY ELFMAN)

DISC FOUR
1 MAIN TITLE (with sound effects) (DANNY ELFMAN)
2-16 SHADOW OF THE BAT, PARTS I and II - SHIRLEY WALKER and HARVEY R. COHEN
17-21 HARLEY AND IVY - PETER DAVISON, MICHAEL McCUISTION, LOLITA RITMANIS, SHIRLEY WALKER
22-27 READ MY LIPS - SHIRLEY WALKER
28-33 FIRE FROM OLYMPUS - SHIRLEY WALKER
34 END CREDITS (alternate beginning and ending)
TOTAL SET RUNNING TIME: 291:14

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   digitalfreaknyc   (Member)

BLACK RAIN!!! BLACK RAIN!

2 CD'S!!! 2 CD's!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PLOTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Interesting - Feat Of Clay part 1 but not part2 (with the beautiful climactic music in the TV control room). Sounds like there's gonna be a volume 3 down the line...

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

Well, I still vote Enterprise before Voyager; and I saw someone else up there say the same. I can take or leave Voyager, personally... though of course if a set had more Captain Proton music on it, I'd be all over that. Maybe there's more fun music from the series I'm forgetting, but the show itself was just so forgettable most of the time it's all just a haze.

Whenver DS9 comes out, I'll definitely be ordering on day 1.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Interesting - Feat Of Clay part 1 but not part2 (with the beautiful climactic music in the TV control room). Sounds like there's gonna be a volume 3 down the line...

Its both parts but damn facebook won't let me edit the original post without deleting everything first. smile

MV

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Well, I still vote Enterprise before Voyager; and I saw someone else up there say the same. I can take or leave Voyager, personally... though of course if a set had more Captain Proton music on it, I'd be all over that. Maybe there's more fun music from the series I'm forgetting, but the show itself was just so forgettable most of the time it's all just a haze.

Whenver DS9 comes out, I'll definitely be ordering on day 1.


I vote Enterprise before Voyager as well. smile

MV

 
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