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 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

John Williams is a genius. This is just as good as War Horse and a great "Americana" flavored score. I've listened to it twice all the way through and just keep coming back for more.

Highly recommended!

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I'm listening today for the first time. Excellent material here, and Williams utilizes the musicians here better than he has in many years.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

John Williams is a genius. This is just as good as War Horse and a great "Americana" flavored score.

Haven't heard the full score yet, but I was hoping it would be a lot better than 'War Horse'.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   itstownerman   (Member)

http://youtu.be/MIiwwkqLn4g


IT is a beautiful score...John Williams soars again..but in a quieter moments. It is a mellow score...no bombastic over the top moments. It reminds me of Schindler's List...powerful, without over scoring.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2012 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

John Williams is a genius. This is just as good as War Horse and a great "Americana" flavored score.

Haven't heard the full score yet, but I was hoping it would be a lot better than 'War Horse'.


I found War Horse very tedious. To me, Lincoln is a much better listen. It plays in subtleties as well as simple grandeur, whereas War Horse felt self-parodizing during many moments.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2012 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

I agree. Also, it's much more inspired.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2012 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

This score, at least in the context of the film, is superb.

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2012 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Although the score is utterly predictable, it's well-made and Williams pushes all the right buttons. That said, despite the uneasy combination of British and Americana elements (a tension not present in Lincoln) in WAR HORSE, I found that score more entertaining to listen to as pure music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Had a lovely day off work today and came home to find my copy of this score on my doormat smile Very fast service to the UK from a company called Nagiry via Amazon.com.

What can one say?
If you love John Williams' music, this will make you smile...a lot.
Very similar sounding to Saving Private Ryan (and parts of Patriot and Amistad).
The two well positioned hillbilly tracks help break up the rather sombre mood of the CD.
The great music from the trailer appears near the end of the CD and mainly it's taken from the 11 minute cue.
This is going to get lots of play on my forthcoming holiday abroad and I'll go see the film when it opens in the UK in January.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   dpsternan   (Member)

Completely agree with you. War Horse is a much more enjoyable stand-alone listening experience. Much more contrast (tempos, dynamics) that Lincoln. I suppose I should give Lincoln another listen, but after the first go at it, I wasn't as enamored as many other FSM'ers here.

Although the score is utterly predictable, it's well-made and Williams pushes all the right buttons. That said, despite the uneasy combination of British and Americana elements (a tension not present in Lincoln) in WAR HORSE, I found that score more entertaining to listen to as pure music.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Maybe once i've seen the movie i'll be able to enjoy it "better". After the outstanding TINTIN and the overwhelming and generous WAR HORSE last year i find LINCOLN less appealing. It's not unpleasant but rather "static". And by "static" i'm not talking about its rhythm or its pulse, which would be stupid -- it's not LINCOLN AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM after all. It's a more general feeling involving harmonies and intervals. There's no much renewal in it or maybe i wasn't able to notice it. Counter-examples are very welcome.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

utterly predictable

I know you were generally being positive about the score, but the word "predictable" has been used several times in this thread now (and in many others), and I'm convinced that it's a completely meaningless comment.

I can't shake the feeling that the word has kind of an inherently negative connotation... so is it a complaint that the composer in question wrote appropriate music? This is a movie about a greatly admired President who lived during the mid 19th century... what Williams did seems just about right for what's called for. I would think that pretty much any composer would approach the movie with similar Copland/Americana-style influences, unless, of course, the filmmakers involved specifically told them not to. What would have been "not predictable" here? If Williams had scored it all for an electric guitar, panflute, and a Mongolian throat-singer?

So if we're applying the "predictable" standard with film music, when's the last time any of us have heard a score that's truly "unpredictable?" The only examples I can think of are scores like Johnny Greenwood's THERE WILL BE BLOOD, which the vast majority of people on this board seem to really hate.

The LINCOLN music is more or less in the style that I was assuming it would be in, I suppose, but of course I did not have the clairvoyance to accurately forecast the exact notes that Williams would use for the various themes or how he'd play them against one another. As it turns out, I really like those themes, and Williams use and orchestration of them. And I like how the CSO performed the music. It's not changing my life that significantly, I must say, but then I wasn't really expecting it to do that either.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

To be fair in my praise for LINCOLN I have to say after a couple hearings I set aside WAR HORSE to bring out FAR AND AWAY and ANGELA'S ASHES, celtic scores by him that seemed more inspired. And TINTIN is one of the very few Williams scores I got tired of as I was hearing it. There was something almost generic about it for me. While LINCOLN was a very specific experience. Very moving because it was subtle and didn't lay it on thick.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2012 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

What would have been "not predictable" here? If Williams had scored it all for an electric guitar, panflute, and a Mongolian throat-singer?

Mr. Mullin wins quote of the week, and I had to try his suggestion:

http://soundcloud.com/contactflashfilms/predictable

I thought "Lincoln" was scored perfectly, and beautifully. I loved the way the score took a backseat to the dialogue, which was the heart of the drama here, and they often played long scenes with nothing more than characters speaking accompanied by an off-camera clock, or by Lincoln's pocket-watch, which was like his ticking conscience. When the score came in, it had that much more resonance.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2012 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I caught the movie after work tonight, and absolutely loved it. And I thought it was spotted and scored perfectly. In that EPK segment that someone posted yesterday, Williams said that he recorded over 90 minutes (without being entirely sure where some of it would go), and about 55 of it wound up in the movie. I probably wouldn't have guessed that that much music is in the movie, honestly... it felt like less. I can't think of a single scene, however, which needed music but did not get it or vice versa.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2012 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

>>>>>utterly predictable>>>>>>

I think the term we are looking for is 'damning with faint praise'.
I think what he meant to say is, Goldsmith would have used the same instruments and techniques, but it would have sounded a whole lot better to him.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2012 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

It's been a number of years since I've been thoroughly taken by a Williams score, but I can now happily say that LINCOLN has me back worshiping at the alter. I find it to be a contemplative, reverential and moving score. It displays a musical perfection and maturity that I usually don't find in film music very often. The brass and wind choirs are gorgeous yet subtle, with each perfectly voiced chord change contributing to an emotional tapestry that has great depth and resonance. It's simply a beautiful, superbly crafted score that I will listen to often when I'm in a contemplative frame of mind. This is the score of the year for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2012 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Totally agree with Mark's comments above.
Is anyone else being reminded of STANLEY & IRIS at times, during the piano melody.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2012 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

The score pushed all the right buttons in the film, but I have absolutely no desire to listen to an album of it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2012 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I got my copy in the mail the other day - always great to hear a new Williams...:-)

 
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