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Thanks for the recap Bruce.
Personally, I feel swindled.
This has made me rethink ever contributing to a Kickstarter again.
James
I agree. This was my first ever kickstarter campaign. I then followed it with the Horner campaign,then Nosferatu and now Abbot & Costello.
I won’t be contributing anymore money until I actually see something in my hands.
Wait did something happen with Abbot & Costello? I thought that kickstarter was going smoothly
So far, the Abbot & Costello Kickstarter seems to be going according to plan, I have full confidence in that one (as all previous Intrada Kickstarters delivered all they promised). The Nosferatu Kickstarter is also still according to plan; in fact, they recorded everything needed and expect to have the physical copies ready this month, so no hickups there so far either. The Horner campaign failed to reach its goal, so nobody has lost anything.
This here is so far the only Kickstarter campaign I ever invested in that stalls, and it stalls big time so far. Don't know why. (Which in itself is of course already a sign of failure, as it is customary to provide regular updates if there are delays, letting people know the reasons for it.)
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And that’s another reason this is a bummer. The release of Music of Star Trek book shouldn’t be predicated on the mishandling of this kickstarter. In fact, I think I want the Trek book more.
Thankfully, LaLaLand is taking this one over. I’m as excited about it as you since I missed the original 1st edition. Not to be a smart ass but who wants to take bets that the Trek book will be out before these Goldsmith books?
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Mad at myself, since I remember Creature Feautures/Taylor White flim-flamming something else, years ago, and I think FSM calling him out.
What was that all about?
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Oct 21, 2024 - 8:14 AM
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Mad at myself, since I remember Creature Feautures/Taylor White flim-flamming something else, years ago, and I think FSM calling him out.
What was that all about?
I'm afraid my memory was 'flashy-thing'd' on this, some incident 20 years (maybe more?), of some questionable incident. It was minor, ill say that much.
Yes yes, not a good idea to post, move along folks....(as i just remembered it may have been something connected to Percepto??).
No need to frag me (Clarence), I was hoping someone recalled....totally.
Grazie, Signore Josh for the above too. Like I said, just asking, because there is a Report this project button, at least on my page. Never noticed it, wondered what it would do is all.
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It's perfectly clear that this Kickstarter campaign was very successful. And it's perfectly clear why: we all know none better than Jeff Bond to write the ultimate guide to Jerry Goldsmith's music. Great. We all want to read this.
The original aim was $19,000. However that was calculated -- and let's suppose it was calculated tightly -- the calculation included a certain number of backers and books. Now the campaign took in WAY more, so there was a lot more money on the books (whoops... where did that pun come from?), but with great money comes great responsibility.
Let's suppose the original calculation was for a few hundred copies. Now it's 1444 backers, plus they obviously need spare copies (review copies, replacement copies, store copies etc.) So a lot more money than the original $19,000 will be needed to fulfill the campaign. So far, so good, perfectly clear, lots more backers means lots more books to print.
I can understand if that means re-organizing and looking for different printing companies etc., setting up new deals and so on. I don't mind the delays, I think most folks here would understand. In fact, most folks here were very understanding. It's perfectly clear it costs more and may take more time to print and distribute a few thousand books than a few hundred books. I think everybody understands that. On the good side: if larger quantities of books need to be printed, that usually also means the pricing for the individual copy goes down; it's more expensive per volume to print 100 books than 1000 books. Would be nice if the quality of the books would reflect that in some way (well, we all would obviously love color), but that's a different story.
But there should be regular updates what is going on, and a new release schedule should be set up. If it takes another year, ok, I can live with that... if there are convincing explanations for it and a reasonable schedule is put forth.
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Oct 22, 2024 - 4:30 AM
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It's perfectly clear that this Kickstarter campaign was very successful. And it's perfectly clear why: we all know none better than Jeff Bond to write the ultimate guide to Jerry Goldsmith's music. Great. We all want to read this.
The original aim was $19,000. However that was calculated -- and let's suppose it was calculated tightly -- the calculation included a certain number of backers and books. Now the campaign took in WAY more, so there was a lot more money on the books (whoops... where did that pun come from?), but with great money comes great responsibility.
Let's suppose the original calculation was for a few hundred copies. Now it's 1444 backers, plus they obviously need spare copies (review copies, replacement copies, store copies etc.) So a lot more money than the original $19,000 will be needed to fulfill the campaign. So far, so good, perfectly clear, lots more backers means lots more books to print.
I can understand if that means re-organizing and looking for different printing companies etc., setting up new deals and so on. I don't mind the delays, I think most folks here would understand. In fact, most folks here were very understanding. It's perfectly clear it costs more and may take more time to print and distribute a few thousand books than a few hundred books. I think everybody understands that. On the good side: if larger quantities of books need to be printed, that usually also means the pricing for the individual copy goes down; it's more expensive per volume to print 100 books than 1000 books. Would be nice if the quality of the books would reflect that in some way (well all would obviously love color), but that's a different story.
But there should be regular updates what is going on, and a new release schedule should be set up. If it takes another year, ok, I can live with that... if there are convincing explanations for it and a reasonable schedule is put forth.
I totally second this beginning to end. No matter the extra delay in the production and/or the supply chain, provided the whole thing remains a serious affair. I think that the backers deserve more serious and regular updates to feed their extra patience.
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Bitch and ye shall receive!
Greetings Goldsmith Kickstarters:
We’ve finally locked down an overseas printer whose quality and price structure exceeds our previous attempt at using Amazon’s less-than-satisfactory print-on-demand service, so we’re aiming to have the books in the production pipeline by November.
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It's a Christmas miracle!
Would it have been so hard to say earlier, "Unfortunately Amazon print on demand didn't meet our expectations, and we're still looking for a printer?"
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Oct 22, 2024 - 5:12 AM
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I'm embarrassed to admit that it's been so long since my contribution I can't even remember how much I paid, or what level of contribution I chose. I know it wasn't near what others may have put in. I did get the digital copy, so there is that.
Trying to look at the "glass half full" side of this and tell myself that these delays happen from time to time and eventually we will have book in hand with a reasonable explanation for the wait, etc etc. But it just seems like there are no more excuses left for the wait and lack of communication.
Yeah, I know the price was a bit more than I was comfortable with, but figured if I missed it I would have kicked myself , at least for awhile.
Sh*t happens, and to me it doesn't seem likely it's a scam, but maybe a clusterf*ck of unforeseen delays. But honestly, it's been some time since my contribution, and most of the time the whole thing is kinda almost forgotten. Keeping the faith is not easy  , but it'll arrive eventually.
Then for some reason I contributed to the Kolchack/ The Night Stalker reprint Kickstarter.  But so far it seems to be rolling along fine.
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It's a Christmas miracle!
Would it have been so hard to say earlier, "Unfortunately Amazon print on demand didn't meet our expectations, and we're still looking for a printer?"
I am just glad they issued a communication and the eta is reasonably imminent.
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