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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Thor doesn’t sound all that grumpy to me…

Interesting question, from up thread: I always figured Horner didn’t get the gig after Aliens (although it seems that Cameron temped the heck out of it with Brainstorm) but why Silvestri?


Horner and Cameron didn't part in the best of ways after Aliens and didn't hook up again until Titanic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzati0Am5GE

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Francis, he knew that part. He was wondering about how Silvestri specifically came into it. Perhaps the liner notes will enlighten us all.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The liner notes is definitely an attraction for me (regardless of the presentation of the music itself). I'm curious as to how one of my favourite scores for one of my favourite films of all time came into being. Who's writing them? The blurb doesn't say.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

The liner notes is definitely an attraction for me (regardless of the presentation of the music itself). I'm curious as to how one of my favourite scores for one of my favourite films of all time came into being. Who's writing them? The blurb doesn't say.

Unfortunately Varese aren't the most dependable label for in-depth liner notes, but I'll be very happy to be proven wrong with this release.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

1989/90: The Abyss, Batman, Last Crusade, Star Trek V, Back to the Future II and III, Red October, Always – Man that was a great year!

don't forget 'Internal Affairs', a classy thriller

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

1989/90: The Abyss, Batman, Last Crusade, Star Trek V, Back to the Future II and III, Red October, Always – Man that was a great year!

don't forget 'Internal Affairs', a classy thriller


...or Licence to Kill!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The liner notes is definitely an attraction for me (regardless of the presentation of the music itself). I'm curious as to how one of my favourite scores for one of my favourite films of all time came into being. Who's writing them? The blurb doesn't say.

Unfortunately Varese aren't the most dependable label for in-depth liner notes, but I'll be very happy to be proven wrong with this release.


Julie Kirgo is thanked at the bottom of the back cover, so.....probably not going to get
any real behind the scenes, technical stuff......

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2013 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Although Varese's regular releases aren't known for their liner notes (if they had any at all), their Club releases have had some pretty good ones, if memory serves.

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)


There are two things I find equally useless. Those who constantly say "ordered!" and those who say "I won't buy it!". What I DON'T find useless, however, is those who say WHY a release interests them or not, maybe with some thoughts on the actual music itself. That's the kind of diversity I think a healthy film music forum (that isn't just a mouthpiece for labels) should strive for.

My two cents. We can go back to discussing THE ABYSS now, if you want to.


Thor, I find it necessary, in good conscience, to post my purchasing intentions whenever a score I have been requesting for many moons gets released in (especially) complete form. Its a courtesy on my part towards the producers who are responsible for the release, such that they know their efforts are appreciated as well as rewarded $tangibly$.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, I find it necessary, in good conscience, to post my purchasing intentions whenever a score I have been requesting for many moons gets released in (especially) complete form. Its a courtesy on my part towards the producers who are responsible for the release, such that they know their efforts are appreciated as well as rewarded $tangibly$.

That's nice for you and them, I'm sure.

However, I'm not here to applaud film score labels. I'm here to talk about film music in general which includes whatever opinion I have of a new release, positive or negative.

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Thor, I find it necessary, in good conscience, to post my purchasing intentions whenever a score I have been requesting for many moons gets released in (especially) complete form. Its a courtesy on my part towards the producers who are responsible for the release, such that they know their efforts are appreciated as well as rewarded $tangibly$.

That's nice for you and them, I'm sure.

However, I'm not here to applaud film score labels. I'm here to talk about film music in general which includes whatever opinion I have of a new release, positive or negative.


My explanation was not an attack. It was simply an explanation.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

My explanation was not an attack. It was simply an explanation.

Sure, that's the way I took it too. Your reasons for 'purchase evaluations' are no less valid than mine. I just think we come from slightly different places on this. Which is OK.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)


Unfortunately Varese aren't the most dependable label for in-depth liner notes, but I'll be very happy to be proven wrong with this release.


Same anxiety feelings, but I still hope that notes can be fine )

At least, we will have no such problems with Trek notes - Jeff Bond is Jeff Bond! He really know how to do his work. Also I think that Lukas also made some contribution to notes...

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   lostboy408   (Member)

1989/90: The Abyss, Batman, Last Crusade, Star Trek V, Back to the Future II and III, Red October, Always – Man that was a great year!

1989 was MY YEAR! That's why we try to do as many scores from that era

Batman
Lethal Weapon 2
Star Trek V
Black Rain
Pet Semetary
Fat Man and Little Boy
Tango and Cash

We even have few more planned in 2014!

Can't wait to get THE ABYSS!

MV



1995 was excellent, maybe better than 1989 smile

Batman Forever
Die Hard: With A Vengeance
Congo (Intrada)
Bad Boys
Species (Intrada)
A Walk in the Clouds
First Knight
Money Train

For 2014 and 2015 maybe

Apollo 13
Jumanji
Casper
Waterworld
Seven
Braveheart
Outbreak
Heat
The American President
Under Siege 2: Dark Territory
Sense and Sensibility
Judge Dredd
Copycat
Powder
Assassins

cool




This needs to happen! here's hoping for 2014 (especially Waterworld by James Newton Howard. I love this score. too bad it's attached to.... well, you get the idea)

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

Such a great presentation!!!

So
Varèse,
Next Christmas, please release...
THE MATRIX 2CD complete!

Thank you


I doubt they'll go back and re-do that...


THE MATRIX is high profile enough!
I think they will definitely consider it, as we would definitely buy it!!
...in about 12 years! wink


Townson probably felt the 1-CD was good enough. It took quite a while for it to sell out. It SHOULD have been 2-CDs from the get go.

I don't expect them to go back and re-release it as a 2-CD set.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   johnrambo   (Member)

Hi!
I would like to ask, how many left? I want to buy it, but i did not get my payment. frown
Thank you!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2013 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

This will not sell out any time soon, I guarantee.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

I just watched the film on the 2 disc Special Edition DVD. On the special features section there is a brief bio on Alan Silvestri. There is a cross promotion etched into the rusty metal wall - "For a good listen try the OST music CD at VSD-5235". Clever guys, aren't they? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I just watched the film on the 2 disc Special Edition DVD. On the special features section there is a brief bio on Alan Silvestri. There is a cross promotion etched into the rusty metal wall - "For a good listen try the OST music CD at VSD-5235". Clever guys, aren't they? smile

That clever guy would be DVD producer/menu designer Van Ling, who's worked on many Cameron home video projects over the years.

DVDreview.com even did a multi-part diary on the making of The Abyss DVD. The section on the menus is here: http://www.dvdreview.com/html/abyss_diary_-_the_main_menu.shtml

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

Anyone know if The Abyss is heading to blu-ray yet? Thanks.

The short answer is yes. Cameron has been working on the transfer for what seems like (and may well be) years. It's just a question of when. He's been understandably busy with other things, so who knows when it might actually get finished. Last I read on Digital Bits was that Fox was working towards a 2014 release. Fingers crossed. I just hope it includes the theatrical version.


I certainly hope a Blu-ray for this comes out next year. It's a long time over due, a great film and score.

 
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