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 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Stéphane Humez   (Member)

For better or for worse Zimmer's score to LION KING was a game changer, followed by Gladiator. They kinda killed that Star Wars sound most of us all love.

MV


Followed by Batman Begins, followed by Inception...


Yeah, in the end, HZ is the only game changer, and the funny thing is that he changes HIS own game... big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

JAWS is another game changer, the first blockbuster. JURASSIC PARK is another, with visual effects and it was the highest grossing picture of all time for awhile there. You can probably tell Spielberg is my favorite director, followed by George miller who also changed the game a little with action, THE ROAD WARRIOR.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

If you choose to believe everything you read, more power to you. Just remember that very little of it would actually be factual.

Yes, I believe everything and question nothing. Ignorance is bliss.









[/sarcasm]

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

JAWS is another game changer, the first blockbuster.

No doubt about it. Jaws is a cinematic milestone.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Yes, I believe everything and question nothing. Ignorance is bliss.


So it would seem.
No worries, it's not a crime.

Besides, we're all G fans here.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Yes, I believe everything and question nothing. Ignorance is bliss.


So it would seem.
No worries, it's not a crime.

Besides, we're all G fans here.


See, we're all friends here!smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)


I do think the studio will think twice about spending $200 million on the next film given this film's drop-off. There will have to be an effort to add more to the sequel that people will be tempted to go back and see, which probably includes more involving characters.


You wanna bet? I'd suggest more explosions and falling buildings as a possible substitute.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

If these "heralders" want to know what a global phenom is, then they should be pointed in the direction of films like "The Ten Commandments", "Ben-Hur", "Star Wars", "2001" and "Gone With The Wind". I could go on and on. Those were/are movies that captivated the imagination of the world and proved to have a staying power that, in many cases, long outlived the people that made them.


Hang on to that refreshing sense of proportion, Octoberman; it will stand you in good stead. Especially in threads about Godzilla, X-Men etc.

All things pass, but modern 'blockbusters' pass so quickly most are just a blur.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

20 years ago it was a really big deal for a movie to make $100 million. Now, it is a big deal if it makes $250 million. The problem is that those movies were being made for 25 or 30 million, so they were profitable at $100 million. These are in deep rivers of red ink when they make $250 million because they are so expensive.

No Godzilla is not a game changer, and it has sunk like a rock after one week.Normally, 20 years ago, that would not matter. The problem now is that a drop like a rock means that the movie probably will never cross the line. Remarkably, the lack of profit on these pictures has very little effect on the studios, the keep greenlighting series of enormously expensive pictures that have little chance of profit because they are selling brands nowadays; the Marvel brand, the DC brand, etc. It more like manufacturing a line of cars than movies, they think in packages of 5's and 10's and crossovers and tie ins.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Hang on to that refreshing sense of proportion, Octoberman; it will stand you in good stead. Especially in threads about Godzilla, X-Men etc.
All things pass, but modern 'blockbusters' pass so quickly most are just a blur.



Actually, it's sort of funny (and appropriate) to bring that perspective in.
There was a time that no one would ever think to put a movie like the 1954 Godzilla in a list that included such illustrious cinematic company. But nowadays it's being recognized as the classic that it is and I think its stature will only grow larger as time goes on.

I wonder how Godzilla 2014 will be thought of in 60 years. LOL

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Nobody thought this film would do 100M two weeks in a row. But to say it's now making nothing...?

The theater I saw it in today was packed as full as it was the first time I saw it, while Saturday night's screening of X-Men: DoFP suspiciously had plenty of open seats.

We won't know Godzilla's total worldwide gross until late summer.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I saw Godzilla last Wednesday and there were like 30 people (and one crying baby) in the theater.

98 Godzilla made $379,014,294 Worldwide 16 years ago. Thats $547,606,337.27 adjusted for inflation today. (Without inflated 3D ticket prices which didn't exist back then) Lets see this Godzilla match that business!

Excluding Last Airbender and Green Lantern everything gets a sequel nowadays. It's hardly a sign of anything other than half the production work is already done. Cheaper to crank out sequels than design a new film from scratch.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I saw Godzilla last Wednesday and there were like 30 people (and one crying baby) in the theater.

But you live in Flagstaff. razz

98 Godzilla made $379,014,294 Worldwide 16 years ago. Thats $547,606,337.27 adjusted for inflation today. (Without inflated 3D ticket prices which didn't exist back then) Lets see this Godzilla match that business!

Where are you getting that figure? According to IMDb, it's $357,623,813, and the movie opened in May and it took all the way to mid-October to hit that number.

Also, G-98 took till mid-Sept to hit its cumulative domestic gross of $136,023,813. Godzilla (2014) has bettered that by 20 million AND in eleven days.

Don't forget, G-98 was hyped plenty, too. The film was just not that well-received, and they had also planned two sequels, which they promptly scrapped. The new movie has gotten much better feedback and is doing good business, so it's no wonder they're moving forward.

Excluding Last Airbender and Green Lantern everything gets a sequel nowadays. It's hardly a sign of anything other than half the production work is already done. Cheaper to crank out sequels than design a new film from scratch.

Don't worry, the next movie will have a lot more Godzilla. You're gonna have big green scaly wood when you exit the theater. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I saw Godzilla last Wednesday and there were like 30 people (and one crying baby) in the theater.


Well, the one crying baby could explain the only 30 people. smile

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I saw Godzilla last Wednesday and there were like 30 people (and one crying baby) in the theater.


Well, the one crying baby could explain the only 30 people. smile


Why would anyone take a baby to a monster movie? Or any movie. It happened when I saw Thor too. Ugh! Yeah I know some ppl can't afford a baby sitter, but way to go ruining a movie for everyone else. Selfish jerks! (Off soap box)

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The new movie has gotten much better feedback and is doing good business, so it's no wonder they're moving forward.

That's debatable. I've also read very good arguments why the 98 version was better.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I think in the long run it becomes a bit futile to think much will change whatever the final gross will be, ADO makes a good point, how things are done these days. Like the film or not I think we can agree it won't really flop in ASIA. There is apparently going to be a sequel to the film, so those who liked this film can check it out and those who didn't don't have to bother to go .

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

According to the LA times the overall drop was 56% which is a typical blockbuster drop, particularly given that a highly-anticipated new film opened the second weekend. I'll be interested to see if Edwards can improve his game as far as human characters go in his SW movie and any Godzilla sequels. I do think he's an impressive filmmaker visually and I definitely want to see Godzilla on the big screen at least once more.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Ironically his inability to direct actors, makes him a perfect fit for Star Wars. LOL

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

The new movie has gotten much better feedback and is doing good business, so it's no wonder they're moving forward.

That's debatable. I've also read very good arguments why the 98 version was better.


Feel free to summarize them here. That movie annoyed the hell out of me for being Jurassic Park 33-1/3. The baby zillas sequence was beyond lame. Matthew Broderick was useless. The effects were decent for the time, but the whole "monster is a female, she laid eggs" was so typical of what Hollywood throws against the wall to see what will stick. The new movie is respectful of G-canon, and the '98 movie would have been fine if they'd pretended it was a remake of Dinosaurus or something.

 
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