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 Posted:   Jan 13, 2019 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Most certainly.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2019 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

After the brilliant THE VISIT and SPLIT, my expectations for this are quite high. But those were both indie films. This is a big studio film. So I better temper the expectations somewhat. I'm seeing it on Tuesday morning.

Glass is still very "indie" it's budget is 20 mill. Less than half of what Unbreakable had... 20 years ago!

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2019 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

THE VISIT =brilliant?!

I, too, am puzzled by that. Thor is quite literally the only human on the planet that I know who thinks THE VISIT was brilliant. The rest of us felt, like so many of his films since that movie, its ending was telegraphed within the first 10 minutes of the movie. Not only that, the other big reveal (the antagonist) is woefully anticlimactic. That said, Thor, I'm glad you really enjoyed it. For me it was the beginning of the end.

My issues with GLASS include the fact that its premise is now so out of date. What was beautifully original in UNBREAKABLE (and handled subtly) is now ubiquitous in moviegoing where "comic book" movies are far too plentiful and, at least by evidence of the trailer, GLASS eschews any subtlety in favour of over-the-top, CG-heavy "action." Too bad; I was looking forward to what I thought might be a return to the M. Night of yore.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2019 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Actually, almost every film critic colleague of mine think THE VISIT was a fine movie. It's very rare that I encounter people who think otherwise. So my experience is actually opposite of yours.

By the way, I just returned from the press screening of GLASS. Alas, it was a bit disappointing. Some great individual elements, but overall it felt too drawn out (at 2 hours and 10 minutes), and omitting the low boiling mystery that made both UNBREAKABLE and THE SPLIT so great. And curiously absent of many Shyamalan trademarks -- the colour scheme, the clever angles etc. The score by West Dylan Thordson was very interesting -- quite minimalistic, sparse and thin, untill it becomes somewhat JNH-like towards the end. Mostly like his score for THE SPLIT, but with some elements that point towards UNBREAKABLE, in other words. An interesting combination.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2019 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The director has, at best, a hit and miss record, and the bad ones, like this one, far out number the good ones

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2019 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wouldn't say that. Really only four bad movies that happened to come after each other: LADY IN THE WATER, THE HAPPENING, THE LAST AIRBENDER and AFTER EARTH. And LADY IN THE WATER, I've even started to reappreciate.

All the rest are great. GLASS is also not a bad film, even if I have some issues. A rare 'middle-of-the-road' film from Shyamalan.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2019 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

The Visit was great!

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2019 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

This movie is a blast - great fun. It's the sort of pulpy thriller that's over the top, outlandish, ridiculous and awesome all at the same time. Thordson's score is in the shaking-the-rafters Herrmann-in-overdrive tradition.

I hope there will be a fourth film. M. Night certainly sets things up nicely for more adventures in this saga.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

The movie is quite a yawn-fest.
And that annoying sound design doesn't help it in any way.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Does one need to see SPLIT or does GLASS let you know what happened.
I didn't see it.


I'm very glad I boned up on both Unbreakable and Split before seeing Glass, which essentially is in medias res and assumes you know the backstories.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Actually, almost every film critic colleague of mine think THE VISIT was a fine movie. It's very rare that I encounter people who think otherwise. So my experience is actually opposite of yours.

By the way, I just returned from the press screening of GLASS. Alas, it was a bit disappointing. Some great individual elements, but overall it felt too drawn out (at 2 hours and 10 minutes), and omitting the low boiling mystery that made both UNBREAKABLE and THE SPLIT so great. And curiously absent of many Shyamalan trademarks -- the colour scheme, the clever angles etc. The score by West Dylan Thordson was very interesting -- quite minimalistic, sparse and thin, untill it becomes somewhat JNH-like towards the end. Mostly like his score for THE SPLIT, but with some elements that point towards UNBREAKABLE, in other words. An interesting combination.


I had the same reaction the first time. Went by myself. Spouse really wanted to go so we last night, my 2nd viewing.
Improved on the second watch but still a let down after Split. Bruce seems so half hearted these days, he felt barely present. McAvoy more than makes up though. And Sam Jackson can't give a bad performance.
**½ out 4
I did like the music and soundscape.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to seeing it again, and hopefully pick up on a few qualities I missed the first time around. A colleague of mine is a huge Shyamalan fan, and has analyzed most of his films into the smallest visual detail. He already has his first article on GLASS out (in English), but I'm expecting there to be more. Do not read if you haven't seen the film:

https://montagesmagazine.com/2019/01/m-night-shyamalans-glass-fusion-of-shards/

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Don't worry Thor.
I won't read it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I do recommend Dag's many (and long) articles on Shyamalan's films in general, though -- even referenced by New York Times critics and other luminaries. You'll find the links at the beginning of the GLASS article above.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to seeing it again, and hopefully pick up on a few qualities I missed the first time around. A colleague of mine is a huge Shyamalan fan, and has analyzed most of his films into the smallest visual detail. He already has his first article on GLASS out (in English), but I'm expecting there to be more. Do not read if you haven't seen the film:

https://montagesmagazine.com/2019/01/m-night-shyamalans-glass-fusion-of-shards/


Skimmed through. Good stuff.
I say Glass is a metaphor for M. Night's career in filmmaking where the big tall skyscraper with all the press and cameras represents Hollywood, the Psychiatric Center with the security cameras represent Night's own home. Night personally funded the movie himself and wanted to show his creations to the world a la Mr. Glass.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to seeing it again, and hopefully pick up on a few qualities I missed the first time around. A colleague of mine is a huge Shyamalan fan, and has analyzed most of his films into the smallest visual detail. He already has his first article on GLASS out (in English), but I'm expecting there to be more. Do not read if you haven't seen the film:

https://montagesmagazine.com/2019/01/m-night-shyamalans-glass-fusion-of-shards/


Thank you for this link, Thor. Sødtholt's essay has some nice insights. As a longtime Shyamalan apologist (I'm the sole person in the world who likes Lady in the Water [cue mock outrage from Marshall]), I find it great to see M. Night back as a force in cinema.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Did not see LADY.....


NO doubt it sucked!
wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   jgoldader   (Member)

As a long-time fan of Unbreakable, who also very much enjoyed Split, I was quite pleased (as were my kids) with the ending of the trilogy, which "felt right" and in keeping with the mythology. If you liked the first two films, I'd guess you'll like Glass. The film really didn't feel 2 hours long. (The previews did, however....)

The more critical reviews I've seen seem to be making the same comments that people who didn't like Unbreakable made--mainly about pacing and exposition. There are surprises in the film, but not the same kind of "twist" that one tends to find in Shyamalan films. I'd be interested to know the order in which scenes were shot, as the first scene with David and his son in the shop really didn't work for me, and I'm wondering if that came early in filming before the two actors had fully settled into their parts. Willis knocked it out of the park in a scene near the end that nearly made me cry, which doesn't happen often in films.

There was a lot of the Unbreakable score in there, and Unbreakable's score is one of those that's always had me wanting more (but I don't think there was much other music, was there?). Dunn's theme, especially in Unbreakable's "Orange Man" track, really brings a quiet nobility that played a big and positive part in my perception of the character. While Thordson's music was a very good fit for Split, I'll always wish Howard had scored Glass; I'd have loved to hear what he would have done with the material and how he might have evolved his music to fit the more mature David Dunn.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think the combination of Thordson (both his SPLIT material and the new stuff), combined with JNH's UNBREAKABLE was very well done. Two worlds colliding, like the films, but done very organically.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Saw the film this previous weekend and absolutely loved it. Unbreakable has always been a favorite of mine since catching it in the cinema in 2000; and Split really turned me around on Shyamalan's current pace. Glass has the measured psychological pace and outdoes the thrills found in Split and what I found to be an even more involved Nietzschean deconstruction of a genre that has been 20 years strong since it really became the pop juggernaut, around the time Unbreakable released. I applaud M. Night for setting up an expectation and revelling in the delivery that there are still surprises that can be had in these archetypical stories.

An interesting thing occurred to me while the film's story was being set into place was that I was spoiled on the ending prior to catching the film. I think my expectation for the finale and denouement helped me really take in the journey while it was happening. I came out thrilled.

 
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