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That (IMHO) was when Zimmer changed the film music world. If this thread was in 2000 I would probably have cited it.
It's not Hans Zimmer who changed the film music world, but producers with no musical culture and no artistic ambition.
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Hey, hey, no need for that. You may like or dislike certain 'important' scores, but let's try to keep it constructive here.
When Alfred Newman was at the head of the Fox musical department, the composers who worked for him didn't compose music which sounded like Alfred Newman.
Total bullshit!
Newman was better than most but
the studio system was anything but supportive of individuality.
Go back to your crypt, Rip.
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Total bullshit!
Newman was better than most but
the studio system was anything but supportive of individuality.
Go back to your crypt, Rip.
Bernard Herrmann, Franz Waxman, Elmer Bernstein, Jerry Goldsmith etc. all worked for Fox.
I don't remember any of their scores sounded like Alfred Newman.
Well...all of those men were under Alfred. I've heard things by Alfred that seemed echoed by Herrmann later (not that there's anything wrong with that, the Golden Age did plenty of mutual borrowing...kind of like how everyone in Vienna, including Mozart, borrowed from Haydn).
I have a hard time with this originality as priority thing. Ben Hur was about as Romantically inclined a composition as you'll find...it's also one of the greatest pieces of film music, period, and certainly on the artistic side). Nothing original, just outstanding composition, motival developments, tons of memorable melodies, serious balls when needed.
We could abstract things a bit more and ask which are the most original soundtracks, and there we'd kind of have to dwell with more than a little Alfred, Bernard, Korngold, Steiner, Friedhofer...the original Apes, Total Recall, the Omen....
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Newman was better than most but
the studio system was anything but supportive of individuality.
And I didn't say the studio system, but Alfred Newman.
As a composer, I doubt he didn't support individuality, when he could, and it seems he could.
Fox was the exception.
In general music under the studio system was bland and homogenous. Things started to loosen up in the mid Fifties when people like North and Previn came up.
Your whole premise seems to.be that Zimmer is a Newman-like figure who forces composers to write like him.
Balderdash!
Brm
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I will answer this one...though my views are very Subjective, all Art is.
Dances with Wolves
Schindler’s List.
And before that...
John Williams...CEOTTK ...It was 100% different. Complicated, the entire score is truly awe inspiring and filled with Williams best writing. This is one score that the 5 Note Theme had to composed before Spielberg directed the film. I have always said, The Academy awarded John Williams, But for the Wrong Film.
Planet of the Apes doesn't qualify? Easily one of the most experimental yet engaging scores in history.
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